Next devices for iPlayer
4. BB (if you can bear to watch it in postage stamp format)
The BBC's streaming iPlayer for Apple's iPod Touch and iPhone has today gone live in beta. As promised last month, the release marks the resurgent iPlayer's first foray onto mobile devices. Some programmes that are available on the desktop haven't made the leap to your pocket yet, but we're promised it's just a matter of time …
Nice to see the BBC supporting the majority markets ...
Oh hang on, this is so they can jump on the iPhone spin-wagon again!
I want to see the version that runs on my N73 (s60) over 3g ... surely thats a bigger target market then the bloody iPhone...
Paris, because she's jus as sexeh as the iPhone... and about as clever too...
but id push the PS3/XBOX360 into the number one spot... and OSX into number 2 :)
the PS3 is always connected to the TV, and a TV is a much better place for watching TV!!! TV on a laptop, just doesnt have the same impact or watchability as TV on a TV!!!
seems odd that the BBC are using my licence fee to target such a nice product like the Iphone, especally seeing as though you need to be connected to wi-fi to use it!
Does the streaming version not already work on a Mac, then? That's all this is: a streaming version that works on iPhone and iPod Touch. Without Flash.
The fanboys are starting to look more and more like a religion. Before they've even read about what this does, they're going to start burning stuff in protest that it's not available on the Mac. Even though it is.
Eww, I have my computer connected up to a HD telly and looked at the iPlayer on that, it looked crap!
Grainy and stuttering, thats why they have the iPlayer on items with small screens (And a window on a PC machine, you can run it full screen, but yup, crap again).
Sadly the BBC have decided that Central London is no longer in the UK and refuse to stream to my office. So I can't try this (mind you I don't have an iPhone anyway).
I'd like to see Wii support too but I doubt that is a BBC problem. If the Wii supported Flash 9, then the BBC Flash iPlayer would work. Flash 9 support won't happen until the relevant developers kits are made available by Adobe.
I'd much prefer to see them drop the Digital Restrictions Management on iPlayer downloads so that we licence payers can get what we pay for instead of being tied to proprietary hardware and software.
We've had a quick look on our iPod Touch via the office Wi-Fi...so thumbs up from us [...] iPhone users are in the same position as iPod Touch owners: the EDGE data network is too slow for iPlayer to work.
Does that mean it works on the iPhone or not, if it works on the iPod Touch? The second part implies it doesn't work on the Touch.
Also I guess the UK-only limit is still in place?
Paris because she proof-read the article ;-)
As a Linux user I'd say the next device should be....
I want some more stuff to fill up the channels on my Wii with. Yes I do watch TV on my Linux box attached to the TV but I generally use the TV tuner in there.
Now only if the Beeb could sort out some sort of free bandwidth to broadband users...
I'm impressed, streaming media is normally very blocky and stuttering, this is superb and ideally suited to the smaller screen of the iPod Touch.
I bought the Touch clearly understanding that the bandwidth characteristics of the EDGE networks and O2's supporting network would lead to an awful rich media experience.
Been very impressed, can't wait for a HSDPA capable iPhone and on a network that isn't under threat of a fine for failing to rollout it's 3G network in time!
Look Chris, that statement <isn't> clear. I have an iPod touch so I was interested in this, but I got stuck on the same sentence. If you don't know that EDGE is what the iPhone uses for mobile data, it is very easy to read it as meaning that the iPod touch doesn't work properly because, like the iPhone, it's EDGE data networking is too slow.
You really should be a bit more open to criticism - have <you> been boozing at Friday lunchtime?
It's quite fun to see the fear of Apple by people here.
Shame to see so much ignorance but that comes with IT being now accessible to Joe Public. *sigh*
The iPhone a niche market? hehe let's see how long you think THAT for shall we?
The BBC are for once on the ball. iPlayer won't be available on your cruddy little devices for a good reason.
The iPhone is a huge platform in the making. It's the NEXT BIG THING. Deal with it.
The release of the iPhone SDK will open your grey dull eyes to what Apple people have known for a year or more.
Those of us with not such rabid blindness to what is happening in front of us will enjoy your slow awakening and enjoy even more watchingyou squirm when these pathetic posts are rubbed in your faces :)
Since the majority of mobile devices which will be able to use this will be phone designed for business men, ie, WiFi equiped with a platform you can modify surely a bigger target audience would be Symbian and Windows mobile, as these have phones (ie the N95 etc and a whole range of Windows mobile ones) have WiFi or can be upgraded via SD-Card expansions. I know many people with N95s but nobody I know directly has an iPhone, thats a 6:0 ratio making the N95 maket alone infinity times larger.
As for running it through a console which is already hooked upto a tv...thats just silly, you're probably within about 4 feet of a computer while on the console anyway.
BBC appears to be another microsoft sort of organisation, they produce bad software - ie only compatible on windows and before fixing their issue ie making it cross platform compatible they move to the next project ie bbci for the phone ??
Doesnt it remind u of the failing windows OS and a move to games console arena?
ahh yess lets give up and move to something easier..
where is all my tv license money going - certainly not invested in brains
I think you missed the point... what's someone on the wrong side of the pond doing trying to access our license-fee-paid-for content? I say let him/her run up a big mobe bill, only to be hit with "Bzzzt - access denied". Oooh, nearly home-time... another benefit of being in Blighty!
PH cos I bet she knows how to use a handbag.
I'm not sure what additional magic the Beeb are using above and beyond regular H.264, so I'm guessing there's not much they'd have to do to make this available for pretty much any other media capable device.
Also, if this works for an iPod Touch, will it work on my newly (dodgily imported) Apple TV? That would be really handy for catching up on missed programmes.
Paris 'cos she's an expert in Internet video...
Its not just TV that is streamed via iplayer... its auntie beebs radio programs too.
I could try to listen to them atm using Realplayer (on my n73 on 3) but 3 are being really nice and dropping live steams connections after 1m 45s ....
So much foir my unlimted streaming on X-Series.
Now if the BBC iPlayer offically supported the N73 i would have something to crack 3 over the head with, As they do not the ycurrently just claim all sorts to avoid fixing the issue....
Not many programmes on it yet, but I was pretty impressed by it. The picture is surprisingly genuinely watchable.
Just to answer the question no-one else cares about the answer to, it does work with a TV out cable (which potentially could have been quite cool if holed up in a hotel room with wi-fi) but on a 26" screen, looks even worse that I thought it would. I know 400kbps isn't ever going to be great, but it looks absolutely awful-far worse than Apple store downloads.
"If you don't know that EDGE is what the iPhone uses for mobile data"
... then you're reading the wrong sites. I expect Joe Public expecting his iTouch to have EDGE "'coz it's bleeding-EDGE tech, get it??", but someone who's into mobile data surely knows, at least, what EDGE/GPRS means.
Oops, I just remember a colleague asking me "what is PPP?" ...
Well, I find that when you've got no option but to wait for whatever reason, on a bus, train, in a queue for the post office, WHY, then access to live BBC news 24, or NASA tv, or ebaums world, tends to make the experience less of a waste of time. Of course, these are not iplayer based, but neither are they region restricted and drm loaded.
Mind you, I don't have an iphone, nor do I need one. My 3G capable HTC Trinity does me just fine thanks. And you would probably be surprised how many locations you can get HDSPA at. Remote areas of wales and cornwall are the most recent I've experienced. Plus with a 1 gig / month soft limit from T-Mobile, the data required doesn't hurt either.
In my mail I was simply making the statement that I'd like to see the iPlayer able to function as completely on my mac as on my xp machine.....let's see it able to download rather than just stream. Have been using streaming since iPlayer introduced but would rather use native on mac than have to boot VM Ware when on the train. A valid point surely?
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Not to criticise your use of time, but isn't the point of mythtv that it records what you want to see from TV - thus rendering a plugin to access iplayer kind of moot - i f you wanted to watch it, myth would have scheduled it to record, no? Thats how my myth handles everything.
And then you'd get it in lovely high(ish) bitrate MPEG-2.
Still, I suppose if you forgot to schedule something...
Doesn't it look utter crap on a decent sized TV? It must look utter pap scaled up to 1920x1200..