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The number of countries with fibre to the home (FTTH) connections is continuing to expand, according to an updated global ranking issued by the Fibre to the Home (FTTH) Councils of Asia Pacific, Europe, and North America. Last week, an Informa report said there were already one million FTTH broadband connections in Europe. …


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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward


    ...back in England, the evil Mr Brown is busy plotting to keep Britain in a dark ages Orwellian surveillance society by keeping track of everything you do, preventing people using high bandwidth requirement applications as long as possible and then insisting our copper infrastructure is great and that fibre is for heretics.

    It makes you wonder if some politicians even give a rats ass if the country is going to lag behind by decades compared to other nations the way they just simply do not care about issues like this and whilst the rest of the world is taking steps forward on it they force us to take steps backwards.

  2. Tim Spence

    RE: Meanwhile...

    Is it really all down to Brown (I'm a poet, and I know it) that fibre is extremely expensive to invest in and implement, especially when we have the type of infrastructure that we already do?

  3. pctechxp

    The way forward

    The only way a fibre network is going to be built in the UK is if net enthusiasts like myself, the AC and others pool our resources to buy the kit, lay the fibre and pay the rental charges to have it housed in exchanges or get appropriate facilities built along with an NOC to run it in a location like London thus making it easy to peer with other networks.

    BT (the privatised state monopoly) will only ever do the bare minimum to keep our creaking infrastructure running but still charge us the earth for line rental in order to keep the fat cat shareholders happy.

    Am game to put my money where my mouth is, are you?

  4. Jacqui Caren

    Ntl just says it provides fibre

    And in glorious blighty where spin is far more important than facts we get NTHell^WVirgin writing to customers to say just how good thier *fibre* connection is.

    Hell, if they could only keep thier coax network going it would be impressive.

  5. Andre Carneiro
    Paris Hilton

    @ Tim Spence

    You mean the type of infrastructure that starts buckling because a TV station has started making a small proportion of their media available online?

    You have to admit it's really barely adequate for today's needs. Unless significant improvements are made soon, I dare not think what bandwidth will be like in 10 years time.

    Paris Hilton because I dare not think what SHE'll be like in 10 years either.

  6. Red Bren
    Black Helicopters


    Surely a nationwide rollout of FTTH would help enable an Orwellian police state? And with a webcam and microphone in every room, ISPs would have to reverse their current policies:

    - Faster upload than download speed

    - "Expected use" instead of "Fair use" policy and if you don't exceed the minimum threshold, you must be hiding something...

  7. Andy ORourke

    Not going to happen

    FTTH is something for your grandchildren’s grandchildren. No one in the UK is making enough profit to do the build or if they are making the money they are not willing to spend it on this technology (not least because we punters wouldn’t be willing to pay for the services at a realistic cost)

    No, it's fair usage policies and traffic "management" for the UK at least until the copper / fibre hybrid network breaks down and melts!

  8. Chad H.

    @ the were never going to get fibre crowd

    arent you forgetting h2o networks? The sewer broadband people.

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  10. Matt Hamilton


    This is what we did a few years back in Bristol for the Media industry - basically we couldn't get what we wanted, at a price we wanted, so we clubbed together and get a bunch of fibre managed ethernet circuits and connected up our own network with our own kit. We all chucked some money in the hat and just did it. Ten years later and we have a meeting this week in which we might finally get the local bodies responsible for investment in the area to understand the value of supporting projects like this.


  11. Dazed and Confused

    We didn't get FTTH because

    When BT wanted to invest in laying it, they weren't allowed to offer cable TV services. If they'd been allowed to sell VOD their accountants had worked out that there were enough sad gits in the country who arrive home too late and miss the start of corry/east enders/what ever other soap, who would gladdly fund the installation of fibre to the whole country. There even enough of these a sados that they didn't need to rely on the pron crowd who funded most of the internet. But no, so as to promote competition BT were barred from offering TV services.

    (OK, actually they could sell VOD coz the government hadn't thought about it, so they hadn't banned it) but they needed the cable service to go with it to make it work.)

  12. Paul Young

    I wish we had sewers

    Where I live, there is no mains sewer

    We have to have a great big tank burried in the garden to

    enable us to flush out toilet.

    I can't see a techie cable guy turning up any time soon

    to get in there with a few thousand gallons of Sh1t.

    Then install a microwave tower to get fibre to our house!!

    Although the pipe to it is only 40M

    And another thing, when the fibre comes out of the toilet

    are they really gonna put a box nearby with "DO NOT PISS ON THIS"

    Another flash in the pan idea!!

  13. Dick Emery

    It's already possible

    "Surely a nationwide rollout of FTTH would help enable an Orwellian police state? And with a webcam and microphone in every room, ISPs would have to reverse their current policies:"

    There was a virus doing the rounds once that enabled peoples webcams. Anyhow that is what the flip down privacy guard is for. What? Yours does not have one? Meh. Buy something that is not a £5 peice of crap next time.

  14. b166er


    Most of our infrastructure is the oldest.

    Maybe we should invade France and start again?

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Thumb Down

    Bugger FTTH....

    ... I'm still waiting for uninterrupted copper.

  16. Remy Redert


    I have this thing called a webcam. It is connected to my computer by an USB cable. If I want to be really sure it's off, it's a piece of cake to just pull the cable out of the front of my machine...

    Now ofcourse, not everyone has front USB slots to spare (I've got 4 front, 6 back. For USB devices I have a mouse, a joystick and said webcam) but it's still pretty easy to just turn it to the side...

  17. Jeremy

    @ Dick

    They invariably have a light on them for exactly that reason - so you notice you left your webcam open on YIM *before* you go looking for porn...

  18. AJ
    IT Angle

    Why Dont Virgin Media Go Wholesale?!

    If they went wholesale, and sold space on their network to other companies then wouldnt the money generated be able to then be invested in laying down more cables and expanding the network (from 55% coverage to around 95%), paying off their debts, and investing in faster speeds, better technologies etc

    I know Virgin Media has an advantage when it comes to FIBER vs ADSL but surely if they set up a wholesale system whereby they could offer 3 broadband wholesale tiers to competitors and get some cash of the government to offer wholesale then it would out them in a fantastic position!

    The problem is, even with BT bringing out the 21CN it is not going to do much for ADSL broadband speeds and it would be impossible for BT to replace all copper wiring with FIBRE anytime in the near future, whereas cable has a network built which could be improved, and 'rent' out space for broadband.

    Just a thought, Virgin Media can not afford to expand the network anytime in the next 20 years so why not? It would make sense the network is there, and for expansion work with H20 to get to the remaining non cabled areas through FIBRE through the SEWERS!!!!!

    The government will need to make it worth their while to do this though...

  19. Charlie Clark Silver badge
    Dead Vulture

    Apples and oranges

    The comparison is at best misleading: the infrastructure of the US, Europe and Japan are not directly comparable, although I suppose it might be fair to compare New York and London. As American is still expanding in population it is easier to install more modern technology in new areas which pushes up penetration rates. At the same time the US is not very good at updating existing infrastructure in the backwaters or even existing cities.

    But who needs these massive data rates anyway? ADSL2 seems to be fast enough for most services and is available to an ever increasing proportion of the population with UMTS finally becoming a reasonable fallback. UK investment is lagging as usual but unbundling has been reasonably successful and cable is starting to show the potential it was denied when the licences were initially awarded (under the bitch if memory serves) so that they *could* not compete with BT.

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