@the other steve@gobhicks
>>I certainly don’t care what happens after I'm dead. Because I'll be dead. It won't be happening to me, will it ?
If you don’t care what happens to anyone else once the planet is relieved of your presence, presumably you don’t give much of a monkey’s now.
>>I'm sure you think that this is an appalling attitude,
Anyone can think what they want. Of course, there will be consequences.
>>but look at it this way, quite a lot of the people who are alive now will still be alive when I'm dead. If we all just worry about the time period when we're alive, then the overlap should take care of us.
>>And further to the whole tech as multiplier thang, if technology can continue to provide us with longer lifespans, as it is doing now, then the picture gets even rosier.
Extended lifespans are already part of the exponential population problem…
>>Long lifespans are also handy for, yep, you guessed it, exploring space !
Oh give me a break!
>>As for leaving the "Old World" in a sorry state, I'm not at all sure how you come to this conclusion. Since the whole issue under debate is that the earth cannot sustain it's population indefinitely, how is it that removing some of the population elsewhere (and probably being able to ship extra resources back FROM there) is going to make things worse ? I can only assume that you're one of those idiots who thinks that as son as we sort out the whole exploration thing, then all the rich folk (the ones with al the capital) will bugger off and leave the rest of us to starve ?
How many people do you think are likely to actually go forth and seed the pan-galactic empire? Do you have any realistic concept of what extra-terrestrialisation might actually entail? Don’t you think that, when it happens, it’s at least possible that it will happen as an emergency escape mission?
>>Unlikely I reckon
>>(as well as demonstrating a world view that can't see past capital based economics)
I don’t have time to go into that right now, but wrong
>>, but if so, so what ? After all we are talking about the survival of a species, so does it matter which of us survives to populate the universe with our progeny ? Or do you only care about yourself, and/or your nearest and dearest ?
Cockroaches “survive”. I believe that humanity should aspire to something more.
>>Penguin, cos it's cuddly, and you're a hippy. Hippies like penguins.
Congratulations, by all of the foregoing you have nominated yourself for “compulsory redundancy” (with extreme prejudice). Hippy my a*se, where’d I put my AK?
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and some wad eat that want it,
but we hae meat and we can eat,
and sae the Lord be thankit.”
[Robert Burns – The Selkirk Grace]
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