Re: I don't give a flying fig about him...
Langley to receive its medal.
.. and the promised lifetime supply of tuna. How much tuna can you eat in 5 minutes anyway?
Julian Assange has been arrested by London cops at the Ecuadorian Embassy after the nation revoked the asylum it had given him for nearly seven years. BREAKING: #Assange removed from embassy - video pic.twitter.com/qsHy7ZVPg5 — Ruptly (@Ruptly) April 11, 2019 The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) issued a statement this …
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How very Mandy Rice-Davies of you, El Reg :-)
I do wonder if the Systems that are arranged and arraigned against Wikileaks have any idea at all about how to Command and Control Virtual CHAOS and Absolute Confusion .... with Secure Protection in Hellishingly Heavenly Environments that are now at release unleashed from considerable maddening confinement. What places are media going to take you tomorrow with decisions yesterday relayed today?
Any, if not newly discovered or uncovered, newly built places in former naturally totally naked spaces, or is it still to be the old doom and gloom, madness and mayhem in rapidly ageing cities and towns with crazy populations that they all appear to so love to perform in and share their own imagined view of a truth to believe for real.
You know ..... the sort of Immaculate Space with Imaginative Places for Supply of Pioneering Settlers via Advanced IntelAIgent Programs which is trailed and trialing from the likes of a experimental satellite node in what is ideally a Fab Fabless Network Lab based on foundational premises honoured and rewarded in programming from here and/or here and other such like Advanced IntelAIgent Ventures for it would be foolish to not welcome and break bread with others long ago there and think you be alone and almighty and free to do as one pleases. Such would be to show the greatest of arrogance and disrespect to an Almighty Willing Host.
Sound Advice? ..... Don't Ever Go There ... for too long can be a very short time in that place, and if captured and overwhelmed with the perceived delights there, that is where you will stay and fester/wither and die.
For to have got so far, and then to fail and fall into the simplest of honey traps at the very first step into something ExtraOrdinary is a hard lesson to learn and recognise as a fault for correction and crash testing, but absolutely vital to understand for success in all the other steps available for the taking, and if necessary remaking/refining.
To those who may be suffering such a crash, there are words for you to ponder and wonder on .........
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm. .... Sir Winston Churchill
IT's getting real spookily busy out there nowadays, El Reg. Are you hearing any word its hitting Main Street and Hoods yet, with Leaks and Seed Feeds into Online MainStreams?
No? Man, that Stealth is Fabulously Good.
Systems in place and in Full Operation with hardly a soul knowing anything about the Changes and now nothing can realistically be done about it .
Outright Public Denial of it being true immediately highlights the possibilities of its veracity whilst Private and Pirate Exploitation and Development of Change Systems delivers to those so engaged, Virtual Sovereign AI Leading Plays.
It's certainly not what we're being told.
- Ecuador gets an IMF loan out of this and what else?
- Is there a dead man's handle on any data JA has access to?
- JA will get tried, almost certainly with no jury as it's national security related.
- JA will get a multiple lifetime sentence for breaking US espionage laws. If not a death penalty.
- UK will get favourable terms for a trade agreement.
- Australia will do whatever it's told by the US.
- Whistleblowers everywhere will feel the chilling effects of US "justice" and criminals in governments will be able to breathe easier.
- Whistleblowers everywhere will feel the chilling effects of US "justice" and criminals in governments will be able to breathe easier. .... AC
Oh? I wouldn't be be so sure, AC. I can easily imagine the exact opposite [Streisand] effect with the likes of a government of Jeremy Hunts and conserving lickspittles being understandably targeted for the most outrageous of crazy unreasonable reactions because of what they do and allow to be done by others on their watch.
How well do you think the Conservative Party [a politically incorrect gang of just 124k members*]
would fare in a snap emergency, no further confidence in government general election at this extremely awkward time, or at any time in the near future? Is the possibility of such a public vote realised their worst case scenario nightmare presented as they prove them to be unelectable with a mandate to govern? And what shenanigans would they contemplate to ensure the will of the people is avoided at all cost?
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_affiliation_in_the_United_Kingdom
If you want CHAOS and Confusion in the Fields of Madness and Mayhem, IT Systems with AI and SMARTR Media Deliver in Spades.
And as/when/if Julian Assange is a political prisoner facing trumped up charges, special rules apply ...
A political offence exception (or exemption) is a provision which limits the obligation of a sovereign state under an extradition or mutual legal assistance treaty or statute. Such provisos allow the state whose assistance has been requested ("the requested party") to refuse to hand over a suspect to — or to gather evidence on behalf of — another state ("the requesting party"), if the requested party's competent authority determines that the requesting party seeks assistance in order to prosecute an offence of a political character. ..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_offence_exception
Or are there prize idiots out there willing to argue against such an obvious evident truth and in so doing confirm, beyond any reasonable doubt, the roles of Madness and Mayhem in the action?
We inhabit strange days indeed ...... but they are all being provided to you. What does that make you whenever you accept them without realising the worst of them be badly designed to humiliate and captivate both competition and opposition? Does Cuckold offend and hit the target bullseye?
It's telling that so many El Reg commentards are so happy for him to be prosecuted for upsetting the Yanks.
Conclusion: Brits are as vindictive as ever. Either that or sympathetic to the perpetrators of things Wikileaks has revealed.
Extraterritorial jurisdiction - that's really what we need more of. It makes the world a better place. /s
Yeah but despite all the reams of personal opinion none of us is an arbiter of justice and that includes you.
Meanwhile, someone the nation actually employs to make that judgement says -
Assange's behaviour was "the behaviour of a narcissist who cannot get beyond his own selfish interest"
But never mind, I'm sure the public support of Pammy Anderson and Diane Abbott will make the judge question himself and reconsider his view.
Personally I'm a little peeved he wasn't thrown in the back of the Black Maria like most common criminals who resist arrest.
As I said, lots of white collar Britons on this forum appear to be nasty, spiteful people.
Not sure what selfish narcissist has to do with anything - that describes many, many adults. Not least, the role model who's currently king of the free world - put there by half the US voters who don't see that sort of behaviour as a problem.
Maybe you'd just like to lock up anyone you don't like. And have the police beat them up for good measure, like the good old days of the 1970s :/
"It's telling that so many El Reg commentards are so happy for him to be prosecuted for upsetting the Yanks."
No, he jumped bail because his final and highest appeal was about to be denied over the extradition to Sweden on the rape charges. Until today, there has been no request for extradition by the USA. And that indictment was only penned in March of 2018.
The judiciary, and most people, take a very dim view of bail jumpers.
@John Brown - do you really believe what you write?!? His arrest is nothing to do with jumping bail - that's just the cover story.
What other bail jumper in British history has warranted spending £30M on his capture. Is there really nothing they could have spent that on to reduce real crime? You know, in the public interest?
Or was it just tax payers money and he was low hanging fruit? Would the sky have fallen in if the "most wanted man in Britain" had just walked out of the embassy whenever he wanted, and arrested whenever he appeared next? Or were the security forces so concerned he might test their "competence"?
Or was it just tax payers money and he was low hanging fruit? Would the sky have fallen in if the "most wanted man in Britain" had just walked out of the embassy whenever he wanted, and arrested whenever he appeared next? Or were the security forces so concerned he might test their "competence"? ..... Anonymous Coward
Are they currently proving themselves incompetent and manifestly unfit in the provision of greater intelligent streams to government and media, AC? And do they command and control the present news narrative orchestrating forces competing and/or opposing the tales to be told tomorrow of mistakes made a long time ago and yesterday.
Is there no New News of the Future in your neck of the woods yet?
Makes a mockery of “Do the right things and the right things will happen” does it not amFM?
And when we are both educated, trained and programmed to do the right things that transpire to be the wrong things, then a right Cuckolded Mockery making monkeys out of media maps leading to righteous and rightful promised lands.
It perh aps therefore would be far sim pler to say “Do the wrong thing and the right things will happen”, therefore and thus joining the hooked and crooked bendy Banana republics as sec retly and in an all bets are on Honey G in the Honeypot money tree type fashion hope that the regular purveyor would be both tantalised by?
Of course just in a world where present circumstances of both coercion have led to said events, would it not be far easier to just come clean and say what the correct choice is?
It's telling that so many of the Anonymous Cowards think (or are trying to make it look as if they actually think) that the reason for the general glee is "for him to be prosecuted for upsetting the Yanks".
I'm a Swede, and as a law-abiding citizen, I'm happy as Hell that the rapey asshat is finally (hopefully) going to be brought to justice for raping at least two women. (Fuck knows how many else he's done it to over the years, and too bad that the sexual assault charges are already past the statute of limitations.)
On a personal level, I'm also satisfied that he'll get his comeuppance for turning WikiLeaks, which could have been a genuine global whistleblowing resource, into first his own personal cult and then a part of the Russian troll-factory operation.
Sure, you might think that's "vindictive", but:
Just wondering ... could Assange contrive to get extradited to Ecuador? Yes, I know that sounds like scratched and warped vinyl, but hear me out. He obviously could not get to Ecuador by normal means (see Edward Snowden case), but if he is extradited, could that level of officiality overcome the USA's itchiness to get its hands on him? Charge? Cruelty to animal. Sure, Ecuador has suffered enough over this, but in the rough and ready schoolyard of international relations, they kick a country when it's down. "Go on, we all do it."
Bobby Fischer was also a fugitive from the US Justice system. His crime, playing chess. In Serbia. For money. His salvation came from an unexpected direction.
Sometimes it is a good idea not to pee in the Wheaties of the person who is helping you. AKA, Julian bites the hand too hard and Ecuador will give him up. If someone were to be helping me out in a similar situation, it would probably be me that says "Yes sir!" and "Yes Ma'am!".
I can't speak for the rape charges, a court should have it's day on that one.
I personally considered JA a bit of a hero for Wikileaks, but it has become fairly clear that he has his own political agenda, and for a site like Wikileaks, that is not good.
He is increasingly looking like a political / Russian tool who was determined to damage one side of American politics, and help the other. Not a good look for a supposedly even-handed web site.
Time for him to answer up, instead of hiding and playing the victim card and hiding.
Re: "supposedly even-handed web site"
Unlike, say, the BBC, Guardian, Times, Daily Telegraph, Daily Mail, Daily Mirror, Washington Post, MSNBC, Fox News etc which will all tell you how "even-handed" they are.
As for "Does he deserve justice" - are you American or just an advocate of Cardassian law?
Assange has literally been a prisoner of the Americans, Ecuadorians and the Brits for 7 years, all because of the NAZI-like policies of the US. It reminds me of the recent Canadian experience where the Chinese woman was shanghaied by Canadian police and politicians to satisfy the American thirst for blood based on not many facts or much evidence. The US, the world's worst example of a prosecutorial fascist culture masquerading as a democracy, is involved up to their eyebrows in both messes. The poor sob has thrown his life away and has little hope of redemption (not in the eyes of God, I must clarify). One does not stand up against a massive, powerful dictatorial regime without expecting to be crucified, as he will be.
He's been a prisoner of his own ego, nothing else. ... Aladdin Sane
But now to be immortalised as a martyr of virtual jihad, Aladdin Sane, with believers and disciples energised into stealthy worship of the hidden truths of classified interests being abused and used against the ignorant masses/undereducated hoi polloi ‽ .
That's something else which opens up a whole new can of worms for Extant Systems Admins to deal with and deny they support and retain to sustain and maintain.
Not a great move by Extant Systems Admins given the vast number of invisible and intangible enemies ready, willing and able and immediately available for Internetional Service out there ....although that is surely no great surprise to anybody given all of the evidence presented of their shenanigans in the past resulting in the main streamed media narratives of today.
Here's one of those worms easily turned deadly poisonous snake ........ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/assange-arrest-charges-taibbi-821107/ ......... but it is does make for cheap pulp television where all can easily follow the inherent media bias in both the mogul and the minnow vying for predominance and credibility in the mainstream.
There is a lot here we don't know.
Are we supposed to believe that someone smart enough to uncover evidence of industrial-scale human rights abuses is not smart enough to watch where he dips his wick, for crying out loud? If you're carrying information that could bring down a powerful government, the last thing you want to do is take stupid risks like having casual sex with strangers, even if your reasons are more selfish i.e. not wanting to risk getting yourself into trouble with the law or trapped in a room with a murderer, as opposed to not actually wanting anybody else to suffer. Unless you believe that the information that you are carrying makes you worth protecting. Then you might be tempted to see if you could get away with a crime; but even so, there are classier crimes, ones more likely to endear you to the public, than rape. Art or jewel theft, for instance, if done with no harm to life, tend to court a good measure of public sympathy for the thief; since the original owner was obviously just showing off their wealth, and everyone loves a Robin Hood character. Even shoplifting a bottle of vodka from a supermarket is mostly going to inspire pity, as opposed to outright revulsion.
On the other hand, if you're in bed with someone who knows something you're desperate to conceal, why not just kill him there and then? That would have made every James Bond film a fair bit shorter. Get into a Cowgirl position, then stab him straight through the heart with a dagger, right in the middle of the vinegar strokes. Job's a good 'un. Your bosses can deal with the clean-up. But once the target is dead and the secret isn't coming out, that makes you expendable ..... So maybe you can use the target, alive, to your own advantage and double-cross your employers? Convince him that you're his only hope, half the money is better than being dead and the only way he can get that is by trusting you? If I'm going to kill you, I will do so whether or not you trust me. But if you don't let me help you, I can't stop anyone else from killing you. So have we got a deal?
Is the timing significant? Invading an embassy to take a prisoner, even one wanted for rape, has the potential to start an International Incident. Waiting until the last minute before the UK would have provoked another International Incident by crashing out of the EU without a deal suggests someone might have been hoping for one lot of events to divert attention from the other lot of events. And if the UK could no longer practice Extraordinary Rendition from anywhere in the EU, our usefulness internationally would be diminished.
Have multiple, over-complicated plots failed at once?
Of course, the most boring explanation is that what Julian Assange actually knew was not really worth very much; but he was arrogant enough to assume that it made him invulnerable, and tried to prove it by getting away with rape. But of course, that is exactly what They want you to think .....