This also shows that the story about the USA wanting him extradited to Sweden so he could be spirited away was a load of codswallop which he invented to avoid questioning over sexual misconduct allegations. The USA could always have done what they are doing now, get him direct from blighty.
Julian Assange has been arrested by London cops at the Ecuadorian Embassy after the nation revoked the asylum it had given him for nearly seven years. BREAKING: #Assange removed from embassy - video pic.twitter.com/qsHy7ZVPg5 — Ruptly (@Ruptly) April 11, 2019 The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) issued a statement this …
Thursday 11th April 2019 12:37 GMT J.G.Harston
Thursday 11th April 2019 13:00 GMT Anonymous Coward
Thursday 11th April 2019 13:03 GMT Stoneshop
Just yesterday his leaky org claimed blackmailers had threatened to reveal "sexual" things alongside other details of Assange’s life inside the embassy; the group claimed that miscreants were trying to squeeze €3m out of it.
I get those mails too, suggesting that the non-existent webcam in my 'device' (apparently they don't bother to detect whether it's a laptop, tablet or desktop, and which of the dozen or so it was I allegedly used at the time) can record me fapping, so lack of internet access shouldn't be much of a problem either.
Thursday 11th April 2019 13:18 GMT Anonymous Coward
Not a good outlook
Trump asks Russia to get Clinton's emails.
Russia gives emails to Wikileaks.
Assange thinks that this will help him to be not extradited to the USA.
Assange has proof of Trump's involvement.
If any of the above were true then the usual outcome is "shot while trying to escape" or "dies in custody".
Thursday 11th April 2019 13:30 GMT FlamingDeath
People have short memories, or are just dead eye'd sociopaths
The sad reality is, is that modern warfare is cowardly, with an awful level of detachment from the consequences. I have a fair idea of what all of this is about, I don't need your opinion.
Thursday 11th April 2019 21:44 GMT Jellied Eel
Re: People have short memories, or are just dead eye'd sociopaths
The sad reality is, is that modern warfare is cowardly,
I'd say 'confused', or full of shades of grey. IMHO, the unedited video showed the Apache gunner tracking armed individuals as well as the Reuters guys. RPGs were clearly visible, along with AKs. Apache relocates, sees <something> circular/cylindrical poking around the corner that could reasonably have been an RPG... So the gunner engages.
In law, the military has it's RoE (Rules of Engagement) that specify when it's ok to fire. Like when there's a reasonable belief of an imminent, armed threat. Which is generally also the legal view, because there are laws in war. So that was a tragic mistake in the fog of war.
Then the Apache circled around and fired on other targets. IMHO, that was a lot more questionable given weapons weren't obvious. And then the crew fired on the wounded, and the vehicle that arrived. Generally that part is illegal, ie the wounded were no longer a real threat, and the gunner could have held fire & provided cover for the ground troops that were approaching.
But the editing in the 'Collateral Murder' vide was very one-sided, and could have been far better if they'd simply shown the unedited video, and had commentary from a lawyer with war crimes expertise. Despite what we see from Hollywood, finishing off a wounded enemy is generally ilegal. Ok, the threat of suicide bombers makes life riskier, but once an enemy is no longer a threat, you're meant to capture and render aid. Then vigourously interrogate, but that's a different movie..
Thursday 11th April 2019 14:15 GMT Anonymous Coward
What is missing from that MPS statement ..
Thursday 11th April 2019 14:22 GMT TRT
Thursday 11th April 2019 14:32 GMT amanfromMars 1
Mildly Unsettling Stuff for UN Settled Staff ... Heap Good AIMedicine though, Kemo Sabe
We couldn't possibly comment...
How very Mandy Rice-Davies of you, El Reg :-)
I do wonder if the Systems that are arranged and arraigned against Wikileaks have any idea at all about how to Command and Control Virtual CHAOS and Absolute Confusion .... with Secure Protection in Hellishingly Heavenly Environments that are now at release unleashed from considerable maddening confinement. What places are media going to take you tomorrow with decisions yesterday relayed today?
Any, if not newly discovered or uncovered, newly built places in former naturally totally naked spaces, or is it still to be the old doom and gloom, madness and mayhem in rapidly ageing cities and towns with crazy populations that they all appear to so love to perform in and share their own imagined view of a truth to believe for real.
You know ..... the sort of Immaculate Space with Imaginative Places for Supply of Pioneering Settlers via Advanced IntelAIgent Programs which is trailed and trialing from the likes of a experimental satellite node in what is ideally a Fab Fabless Network Lab based on foundational premises honoured and rewarded in programming from here and/or here and other such like Advanced IntelAIgent Ventures for it would be foolish to not welcome and break bread with others long ago there and think you be alone and almighty and free to do as one pleases. Such would be to show the greatest of arrogance and disrespect to an Almighty Willing Host.
Sound Advice? ..... Don't Ever Go There ... for too long can be a very short time in that place, and if captured and overwhelmed with the perceived delights there, that is where you will stay and fester/wither and die.
For to have got so far, and then to fail and fall into the simplest of honey traps at the very first step into something ExtraOrdinary is a hard lesson to learn and recognise as a fault for correction and crash testing, but absolutely vital to understand for success in all the other steps available for the taking, and if necessary remaking/refining.
To those who may be suffering such a crash, there are words for you to ponder and wonder on .........
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm. .... Sir Winston Churchill
IT's getting real spookily busy out there nowadays, El Reg. Are you hearing any word its hitting Main Street and Hoods yet, with Leaks and Seed Feeds into Online MainStreams?
No? Man, that Stealth is Fabulously Good.
Systems in place and in Full Operation with hardly a soul knowing anything about the Changes and now nothing can realistically be done about it .
Outright Public Denial of it being true immediately highlights the possibilities of its veracity whilst Private and Pirate Exploitation and Development of Change Systems delivers to those so engaged, Virtual Sovereign AI Leading Plays.
Thursday 11th April 2019 16:02 GMT Sommer
Thursday 11th April 2019 16:21 GMT Marketing Hack
Thursday 11th April 2019 17:04 GMT Anonymous Coward
I wonder what's really going on (PS it's nothing to do with rape allegations)
It's certainly not what we're being told.
- Ecuador gets an IMF loan out of this and what else?
- Is there a dead man's handle on any data JA has access to?
- JA will get tried, almost certainly with no jury as it's national security related.
- JA will get a multiple lifetime sentence for breaking US espionage laws. If not a death penalty.
- UK will get favourable terms for a trade agreement.
- Australia will do whatever it's told by the US.
- Whistleblowers everywhere will feel the chilling effects of US "justice" and criminals in governments will be able to breathe easier.
Friday 12th April 2019 06:18 GMT amanfromMars 1
Re: I wonder what's really going on (PS it's nothing to do with rape allegations)
- Whistleblowers everywhere will feel the chilling effects of US "justice" and criminals in governments will be able to breathe easier. .... AC
Oh? I wouldn't be be so sure, AC. I can easily imagine the exact opposite [Streisand] effect with the likes of a government of Jeremy Hunts and conserving lickspittles being understandably targeted for the most outrageous of crazy unreasonable reactions because of what they do and allow to be done by others on their watch.
How well do you think the Conservative Party [a politically incorrect gang of just 124k members*]
would fare in a snap emergency, no further confidence in government general election at this extremely awkward time, or at any time in the near future? Is the possibility of such a public vote realised their worst case scenario nightmare presented as they prove them to be unelectable with a mandate to govern? And what shenanigans would they contemplate to ensure the will of the people is avoided at all cost?
If you want CHAOS and Confusion in the Fields of Madness and Mayhem, IT Systems with AI and SMARTR Media Deliver in Spades.
And as/when/if Julian Assange is a political prisoner facing trumped up charges, special rules apply ...
A political offence exception (or exemption) is a provision which limits the obligation of a sovereign state under an extradition or mutual legal assistance treaty or statute. Such provisos allow the state whose assistance has been requested ("the requested party") to refuse to hand over a suspect to — or to gather evidence on behalf of — another state ("the requesting party"), if the requested party's competent authority determines that the requesting party seeks assistance in order to prosecute an offence of a political character. ..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_offence_exception
Or are there prize idiots out there willing to argue against such an obvious evident truth and in so doing confirm, beyond any reasonable doubt, the roles of Madness and Mayhem in the action?
We inhabit strange days indeed ...... but they are all being provided to you. What does that make you whenever you accept them without realising the worst of them be badly designed to humiliate and captivate both competition and opposition? Does Cuckold offend and hit the target bullseye?
Thursday 11th April 2019 17:11 GMT Anonymous Coward
It's telling that so many El Reg commentards are so happy for him to be prosecuted for upsetting the Yanks.
Conclusion: Brits are as vindictive as ever. Either that or sympathetic to the perpetrators of things Wikileaks has revealed.
Extraterritorial jurisdiction - that's really what we need more of. It makes the world a better place. /s
Thursday 11th April 2019 19:45 GMT Killing Time
Yeah but despite all the reams of personal opinion none of us is an arbiter of justice and that includes you.
Meanwhile, someone the nation actually employs to make that judgement says -
Assange's behaviour was "the behaviour of a narcissist who cannot get beyond his own selfish interest"
But never mind, I'm sure the public support of Pammy Anderson and Diane Abbott will make the judge question himself and reconsider his view.
Personally I'm a little peeved he wasn't thrown in the back of the Black Maria like most common criminals who resist arrest.
Thursday 11th April 2019 21:32 GMT Anonymous Coward
As I said, lots of white collar Britons on this forum appear to be nasty, spiteful people.
Not sure what selfish narcissist has to do with anything - that describes many, many adults. Not least, the role model who's currently king of the free world - put there by half the US voters who don't see that sort of behaviour as a problem.
Maybe you'd just like to lock up anyone you don't like. And have the police beat them up for good measure, like the good old days of the 1970s :/
Thursday 11th April 2019 23:55 GMT John Brown (no body)
"It's telling that so many El Reg commentards are so happy for him to be prosecuted for upsetting the Yanks."
No, he jumped bail because his final and highest appeal was about to be denied over the extradition to Sweden on the rape charges. Until today, there has been no request for extradition by the USA. And that indictment was only penned in March of 2018.
The judiciary, and most people, take a very dim view of bail jumpers.
Friday 12th April 2019 11:08 GMT wokkie27
Friday 12th April 2019 13:30 GMT Anonymous Coward
@John Brown - do you really believe what you write?!? His arrest is nothing to do with jumping bail - that's just the cover story.
What other bail jumper in British history has warranted spending £30M on his capture. Is there really nothing they could have spent that on to reduce real crime? You know, in the public interest?
Or was it just tax payers money and he was low hanging fruit? Would the sky have fallen in if the "most wanted man in Britain" had just walked out of the embassy whenever he wanted, and arrested whenever he appeared next? Or were the security forces so concerned he might test their "competence"?
Friday 12th April 2019 15:19 GMT amanfromMars 1
Re: Justice in Deaf, Dumb and Blind States ie Raw Hard Core Copy Evidence Missing
Or was it just tax payers money and he was low hanging fruit? Would the sky have fallen in if the "most wanted man in Britain" had just walked out of the embassy whenever he wanted, and arrested whenever he appeared next? Or were the security forces so concerned he might test their "competence"? ..... Anonymous Coward
Are they currently proving themselves incompetent and manifestly unfit in the provision of greater intelligent streams to government and media, AC? And do they command and control the present news narrative orchestrating forces competing and/or opposing the tales to be told tomorrow of mistakes made a long time ago and yesterday.
Is there no New News of the Future in your neck of the woods yet?
Saturday 13th April 2019 06:29 GMT Cliff Thorburn
Re: Justice in Deaf, Dumb and Blind States ie Raw Hard Core Copy Evidence Missing
Makes a mockery of “Do the right things and the right things will happen” does it not amFM?
And when we are both educated, trained and programmed to do the right things that transpire to be the wrong things, then a right Cuckolded Mockery making monkeys out of media maps leading to righteous and rightful promised lands.
It perh aps therefore would be far sim pler to say “Do the wrong thing and the right things will happen”, therefore and thus joining the hooked and crooked bendy Banana republics as sec retly and in an all bets are on Honey G in the Honeypot money tree type fashion hope that the regular purveyor would be both tantalised by?
Of course just in a world where present circumstances of both coercion have led to said events, would it not be far easier to just come clean and say what the correct choice is?
Monday 15th April 2019 08:31 GMT CRConrad
It's telling that so many of the Anonymous Cowards think (or are trying to make it look as if they actually think) that the reason for the general glee is "for him to be prosecuted for upsetting the Yanks".
I'm a Swede, and as a law-abiding citizen, I'm happy as Hell that the rapey asshat is finally (hopefully) going to be brought to justice for raping at least two women. (Fuck knows how many else he's done it to over the years, and too bad that the sexual assault charges are already past the statute of limitations.)
On a personal level, I'm also satisfied that he'll get his comeuppance for turning WikiLeaks, which could have been a genuine global whistleblowing resource, into first his own personal cult and then a part of the Russian troll-factory operation.
Sure, you might think that's "vindictive", but:
- Have you ever considered that you might be just plain wrong on that?
- Being a rapist and sexual molester, he deserves any "vindictiveness" he gets.
- Being a general narcissist cult arsehole and Putin-lackey-troll, he deserves it even more.