back to article Aliens crash landed on Earth – and Uncle Sam is covering it up, this guy tells Congress

The US government has recovered alien spacecraft and bodies from crash landings on Earth, and is keeping the whole thing covered up, Congress was told on Wednesday. Ryan Graves, a former F-18 pilot who served in the US Navy for over a decade, retired US Navy commander David Fravor, and David Grusch, an intelligence officer who …

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    1. Spanners
      Boffin

      Re: Nonsense

      Perhaps they may have worked out that investigation is not the same as exploration and the latter needs meat sacks.

      1. doublelayer Silver badge

        Re: Nonsense

        Of course, but not to land your own here. Instead, to do some investigation, you could start having your drones retrieve some stuff that can be found on the surface and bringing it back. That way, you can experiment on that in peace, and if it turns out to be dangerous or unwanted, you can drop it into the sun. Quarantining possible sources of infection is a good protocol for investigating things you don't know about. Of course, if they are exploring, I'd expect to see their version of the rovers we've deployed when we wanted to explore another planet.

      2. Ivan Headache

        Re: Nonsense

        Remember they have to do some “probing” while they’re here.

        1. Vincent van Gopher
          Alien

          Probing

          This is why aliens come to probe us - https://youtu.be/I9W816W40nE - TripTank

        2. Toni the terrible

          Re: Nonsense

          annualy?

    2. breakfast
      Alien

      Re: Nonsense

      This assumes that the biological agents are the aliens who are sending the craft, not bio-engineered drones or similar. I don't think we have enough evidence in any direction to be certain of that.

  1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
    Alien

    "Shhh. Just be quiet a little longer...

    ... then we can jump out and say 'Boo'!"

  2. Ordinary Donkey

    Almost like it's a distraction.

    Is there a Hunter Biden story people need distracting from or something?

    1. sabroni Silver badge

      Re: Is there a Hunter Biden story people need distracting from

      No, there really isn't, all that shit stirring didn't really convince anyone new.

      But nice to see the paranoia extends to the republicans running this "investigation".

      You know that they're the ones spreading the Hunter Biden story, yeah?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Is there a Hunter Biden story people need distracting from

        well they are spreading lots of bullshit around to divert from the orange twat being a fucking criminal.

        1. jake Silver badge

          Re: Is there a Hunter Biden story people need distracting from

          "well they are spreading lots of bullshit around to divert from the orange twat being a stoopid fucking criminal."

          FTFY

          Matches his so-called "base"[0] quite nicely, no?

          [0]Base; adj., Of low value and having inferior properties.

  3. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    Be Content as Amazed Spectators of Almighty Storming Swarming Cloud Phormations. That is your Lot.

    "If we in fact have programs that possess this technology, it needs to have oversight from those people that the citizens of this great country elected to office to represent what is best for the United States and in the best interest of its citizens."

    If, by oversight, you really mean they need to have remote absolutely fabulous fabless command and practical control .... Ye Gods! You cannot be serious, given how well everything is presently going with all that is well known and they have about everything freely enough available everywhere today for/from Earthly sources/forces.

    They are not fit for future alien purpose, and it is just not going to ever happen for such would be an unmitigated disaster akin to letting a greedy gang of stupid hungry sickly kids loose in a sweet shop.

    Furthermore, specifically alluding to the impact and potential dangers of a possible alien intelligence on Earth, is one best advised and respectfully encouraged in any public engagement to be non-confrontational and constructively acquiescent, lest, as may be rightly feared and as has been clearly and accurately enough stated, "Indeed, the future of our civilization and our comprehension of humanity's place on Earth and in the cosmos depends on the success of this very process,", for in deed, indeed it certainly does.

    1. Caver_Dave Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: above

      "possible alien intelligence on Earth"?

      What's your handle again?

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: above

        Valentine Michael Smith?

        1. WolfFan

          Re: above

          Nah. J’onn J’onzz.

          Please keep open flames far away, thanks.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    warning

    Don't look at the comments on youtube video's about this bullshit.

    It's brought out all the fucking crazy nutters, at this point USA needs to be turned into a large padded cell.

    (the religious nutters in USA GOV on the panel also don't seem to have realised if any of this is true it means their religions are all proved to be utter bollocks more than they already are bollocks. any sane persons head would have exploded with the cognitive dissonance)

    1. Korev Silver badge
      Pirate

      Re: warning

      The Flying Spaghetti Monster will smite down with his Noodly Appendage for that it...

    2. SundogUK Silver badge

      Re: warning

      How would this prove religion to be bollocks? Different categories of knowledge altogether. (Note: I am an atheist.)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: warning

        Did God create aliens in his own image? Their existence would screw up much of the dogma in the bible/torah/quran.

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          1. Arthur the cat Silver badge

            Re: warning

            Can you pick up a few thousand 200 ton blocks of rock and start to build a pyramid perfectly aligned with the planet?

            I can guarantee the base will be perfectly aligned with the planet's local surface.

            1. Spanners
              Facepalm

              Re: warning

              Why? How?

              I have come across modern buildings that are not properly aligned with the ground. We have thousands of years more experience than the pyramid builder - and probably more clever gadgets.

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              2. Arthur the cat Silver badge

                Re: warning

                A few thousand 200 ton blocks would tend to align the local surface with their lower faces quite well for most surface materials(*). (Should I have added the "Joke alert" icon?)

                (*) Very hard materials such as granite excluded.

              3. that one in the corner Silver badge

                Re: warning

                > . We have thousands of years more experience than the pyramid builder - and probably more clever gadgets

                And care a damn sight less about the quality of the final result: we plan our buildings to stand for decades, not centuries - certainly not hoping for them to last an eternity!

                1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

                  Re: warning

                  ...and they need to be put up as quickly and cheaply as possible. When did we last see a building built by 1000's of people over a period of decades and as you say, designed to last many centuries?

          2. Mog_X

            Re: warning

            how were the Egyptian pyramids built? - the Goa'uld, obviously.

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              1. Rameses Niblick the Third Kerplunk Kerplunk Whoops Where's My Thribble?

                Re: warning

                Joking aside, I'm wondering why you think there was ever a need to move a 200 ton rock? Best estimates say the heaviest stone in the Great Pyramid is somewhere in the region of 80 tonnes. Large steam locomotives weigh nearly 100 tonnes, and people have been craning those around since they were first built.

                The problem you have is that none of what you claim is as difficult as you make out. Plus current estimations are that each pyramid took 20 to 30 years to complete. That's literally a lifetimes work. It didn't happen quickly.

                Modern day example. People were discussing the possibility of using the Saturn 5 to move large loads in to orbit once again. The problem? All the people who built, maintained and otherwise worked on them have long since retired so no-one now knows how they work. That doesn't mean they were built by aliens.

                1. heyrick Silver badge

                  Re: warning

                  Saturn 5? That's easy. Light blue touch paper, stand very far back.

                2. David Nash

                  Re: warning

                  Too many people use the argument of personal incredulity. "I can't figure it out so it must be aliens" (or God, depending on context)

                3. that one in the corner Silver badge
                  Alien

                  Re: warning

                  > All the people who built, maintained and otherwise worked on them have long since retired so no-one now knows how they work. That doesn't mean they were built by aliens.

                  Hmm. Have you seen the photos of von Braun before and after he'd been in the US for a while? Clearly it was getting harder to shapeshift back into the "original" version!

              2. doublelayer Silver badge

                Re: warning

                Exactly. So today, when there aren't any people on the planet who think they are gods (okay, there are some, but we don't think they're gods), we don't see a point in wasting a lot of time and effort building big, useless, stone structures for them. When the idea was that they are gods, and that they will kill lots of people if they're unhappy, and they control the sun, then it seemed like they could have whatever structures they wanted as long as they avoided doing it.

                By the way, there is a good example of this. There is one family who have convinced some people to act like they're gods. I'm thinking here of the ruling family of North Korea, who have gotten the cult of personality system working much better than you'd imagine. One thing they've chosen to do with that system is to get a lot of people to go up large mountains and carve massive holes into them in the shape of sayings of one of the Kims, then paint them so they can be seen at a long distance. The paint won't last, but those carvings are going to be around for a really long time now, a shame given how terrible they are. People frequently died while carving those.

                If we were going to carve slogans into some mountains, we might start asking questions like "why would we want to", "who is paying for this and should they really have a mountain", "will this cause environmental damage", and "will I die while doing this stupid thing for you". The answers to many of those questions would either make us refuse the task or add so many requirements to it that the person who wants it done finds that it's more trouble or expense than they can afford. Therefore, we don't do it. If we decided to do so, we would not only be capable of doing it, but we would eventually become more and more efficient at doing it as we gained experience and made process improvements.

              3. Rich 11

                Re: warning

                Do you realise that your assessment of the purported difficulties inherent in pyramid construction is unlikely to be persuasive when you can't even construct a proper sentence? You come across as a babbling loon.

              4. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

                Re: can guess how the pyramids were built but don't have the ability to build them easily today

                This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've heard lately. If we wanted to build a pyramid today, it would not be difficult. Slow? Yes. Expensive? Also yes. Difficult? Not really.

                The reason people aren't building pyramids todays is because they don't want to.

                Roller logs, earthen ramps, and enough manpower is all you need to move big rocks. Sure, it takes a long time (decades), you need a lot of grunts, and it probably killed a lot of the workers though injury and exhaustion, but the ancient Pharoahs didn't really care about worker safety. No cranes needed. Just some basic construction methods and a lot of human effort.

                These were life long projects. Start when you become Pharoah, hope to survve long enough to see it complete. Some didn't outlive their ambitions.

                1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

                  Re: can guess how the pyramids were built but don't have the ability to build them easily today

                  If we wanted to build a pyramid today, it would not be difficult. Slow? Yes. Expensive? Also yes. Difficult? Not really.

                  Except that today it would probably be subcontracted to Crapita, and so would take 5x as long as planned at 10x the cost. And it would probably be built upside-down.

            2. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge

              Re: warning

              Well their slaves.

              1. Toni the terrible

                Re: warning

                No slaves needed, just a Religion with a God-King

          3. Rameses Niblick the Third Kerplunk Kerplunk Whoops Where's My Thribble?

            Re: warning

            And we see paintings in stone-age caves that we say are just amateur images of people but maybe aliens have been visiting the Earth for the last 40,000 years? And then there are other things that we try to explain but fail ... how were the Egyptian pyramids built?....

            Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! I've been waiting for this one!

            *Ahem*

            They had massive whips, Rimmer. Massive, massive whips.

            1. ChoHag Silver badge

              Re: warning

              I think it was the Quaqaars.

              Now where'd I put that chicken?

          4. heyrick Silver badge
            Alien

            Re: warning

            They have visited, maybe even kick-started us. Just Google for the Löwenmensch figurine for evidence.

            (fx: stirs, runs, hides)

          5. John H Woods

            Re: "how were the Egyptian pyramids built?"

            By resourceful, well-resourced, organized and clever people. Brown people can be that, you know?

          6. jake Silver badge

            Re: warning

            "And we see paintings in stone-age caves that we say are just amateur images of people but maybe aliens have been visiting the Earth for the last 40,000 years?"

            My daughter, budding artist that she was at age 3, invented images that were the spitting image of stone-age petroglyphs and petrographs (including paint-spattered negatives of her hands). Later, at the ripe old age of 9 or 10, she created drawings of animals around here that were remarkably similar in style to those at Lascaux. I'm sure that other commentards who are parents can report similar.

            "how were the Egyptian pyramids built? Can you pick up a few thousand 200 ton blocks of rock and start to build a pyramid perfectly aligned with the planet?"

            My brother and I built a 360ftX240ft barn, the exterior walls of which are made of cinder blocks to a height of 16 feet. The four corners are plumb and level. It is perfectly aligned north/south. I could easily do it with larger blocks, given a supply of them. Give me the national budget of Khufu and the willing cooperation of the population of Egypt, and yes, I could in fact duplicate The Great Pyramid. Modern tools would make this almost easy, if expensive ... but doing it with hand tools could be done. Stacking Lego is a skill learned in childhood. (And has been noted elsewhere, the largest blocks in the Great Pyramid are nowhere near 200 ton. Long, short or metric.).

            "And then create some images of "people" with long conical heads?"

            Tom Davis and Dan Aykroyd somehow managed this incredible feat.

          7. Slipoch

            Re: warning

            1st year engineering (at decent unis) they do a lot of the supposedly 'unknown' Mayan and Egyptian pyramid building techniques (the Egyptians also used a clever perspective trick with a pole and drawing on the ground which to the observer at the pole would see the vertical mirror image of the pyramid to be built.

            And yes, the basic idea behind the block and tackle lifting allows lifting a weight far greater than you weigh, extend this principle out and you get all kinds of cool methods for lifting large stone.

            Also btw, if you build it on the ground and make sure your widths & distances are right, it will be perfectly aligned with the local ground.

            The conical heads is an easy one, cause along with those images were all the other images showing how they strapped the children's heads with cloth/leather straps and change these as they age, forming the skull up into the beehive shape. Literally right next to the some of the images u-fool-ogists post about. This has been known about since the 80's at least.

          8. Toni the terrible

            Re: warning

            Pyramids were built by organised people doing grunt work like always, no aliens or gods needed

            1. David Hicklin Silver badge

              Re: warning

              > Pyramids were built by organised people doing grunt work like always, no aliens or gods needed

              Recent documentary programs have suggested that they were paid workers rather than slaves

        2. JulieM Silver badge

          Re: warning

          Ah, you puny mortal humans with only one manifestation! God made you in that shape because that is the shape in which God appears to you. But you can't assume that's the only shape in which an all-powerful God ever appears. If God made the inhabitants of some other planet a different shape, then that is simply the shape in which He appears to them. And if you cannot understand this, it is because you have not got the Holy Spirit in you.

          It is easy when you are full of it.

          1. Arthur the cat Silver badge

            Re: warning

            I've just had a divine revelation! God is a mimic octopus!

            [Got to have an xkcd somewhere.]

          2. Paul Herber Silver badge
            Pint

            Re: warning

            'the Holy Spirit'

            Is that the same as Pan-galactic Gargle Blasters?

            1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
              Thumb Up

              Re: warning

              Is it significant that this story came out on a Thursday.

              Going outside now to look for yellow sla blike somethings that hang in the air in exactly the same way that bricks don't.

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