back to article Light the torches! NSA's BFF Senator Feinstein calls for e-book burning

Senator Dianne Feinstein is calling for a pair of controversial instructionals to be banned from the internet. Feinstein (D-CA) did not say exactly how she plans to scrub The Anarchist Cookbook and Inspire magazine from every server, desktop and notebook on the planet, but none the less she wants both titles pulled from …

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  1. MatsSvensson

    Start with the bible.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      To be fair, lets also throw in the Koran, the Torah, anything Dawkins has written / produced (I'm an atheist and I still find him to be an intolerable prick), and every other piece of religious propaganda out there.

  2. TimeMaster T
    Flame

    This is the sig I use on most sites i post too.

    Beware those who would deny you Knowledge. For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master.

    It is paraphrased from a faction bio of Sid Myer's Alpha Centauri

    "As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."

    I am sad to say I voted for DF when she first ran for office. After her support of extending the Patriot act and other actions that undermine the Constitution in recent years I will now vote for whomever has the best chance of getting that Bitch out of office the next time she is up for election.

  3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "Feinstein, a big fan of America's surveillance apparatus"

    IIRC she became a little less enthusiastic when it was turned against her committee.

  4. King Jack
    Flame

    It never stops at one book

    Let's imagine that this book was the worst thing a man ever created and really needs to disappear. It gets evaporated and everyone is happy. Because the president set, it's time to ban another few books just to be safe. In a few months the list now includes 100s. This is a slippery slope that will get abused. Look what happened to the Pirate bay in the UK. The list now contains 100s of sites and has achieved nothing.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Mah Name is Bubba Rednecker

    Paw got maw to cook some vittles from this Cook book

    Paw says we should try erotic food

    Sadly maw passed away mid cook we fink it was the Moooshine still blowwin up

    still there was some of the vittles left in the pan tasted like dead skunk

    Paw says elli may my sister now has to start cooking for us

    I hope she can cook better than dear late maw

  6. bpfh Silver badge
    Headmaster

    The Anarchists Cookbook?

    A funny read, but not very practical. Some (most) of the ideas are one step away from fantasy and it cannot seriously be taken as a real improvised weapons manual. I believe that Vice tried to replicate some of their plans, notably for Napalm (a plain old molotov cocktail works better), and a skateboard firebomb (very hard to get right, and could potentially make a nice flash that would singe your arms but nothing more dangerous), and when it starts to get into atomic bombs, well, lol!

    Now, if you really want to be serious about making things that go bang, there are some very dangerous books out there. They are hidden in a secretive place called a "Library" and the initiated call them "high school organic chemistry books", and the older the better. I remember buying 3 of them from my community college in the 1990's for 15p each when they redecorated. Written in the early 60's, with full preparation recepies, procedures, temperatures, and checks for nitroglycerine, TNT, gelignite, RDX...

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  7. Six_Degrees

    Although Feinstein is an idiot, the Anarchist's Cookbook has probably been more of a friend to anti-terrorist efforts than otherwise. It's recipes are notoriously wrong - and dangerous for those following them. It's probably responsible for more missing fingers and hands in the terrorist community than any other source of bad information.

  8. sisk

    I've read the anarchist cookbook. I came away with the distinct impression than anyone trying to use it for more than minor mischief was more likely to blow themselves up than anyone else. Some of the recipes were shockingly and obviously dangerous to anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of chemistry.

  9. Anonymous John

    Offhand, I can think of two novels. One tells how to make a very unstable explosive, and the other mentions three common chemicals that combust violently when mixed. Are they to be banned too?

    1. Six_Degrees

      There probably isn't a politician alive today who isn't trying to shove a foot through the door of outright, blatant censorship. The idea of squelching the opposition through the forces only the state can bring to bear is just too compelling for them to resist.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      then there's Fight Club

      someone might get curious about the movie making a connection between glycerine and nitroglycerine, and do some research.

      Wanna buy some soap? :)

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Devil

    Feinstein wants to ban the Anarchist's Cookbook...

    Because she probably sold her soul around the book's publishing date, and now she conflates the two events.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ignition

    Another book to be encouraged for circulation to terrorists. I like to think of them trying to experiment with RFNA and UDMH, provided they're doing it in the Middle East and not my back garden.

  12. CJ Hinke

    Diane Feinstein was mayor of the most liberal city in North America...until her decline and fall into national politics. If San Francisco, for example, can be fooled by a politician who doesn't believe in why America is great, well, almost all of us can be fooled.

    Perhaps I shouldn't, but this segues into Barack Obama. The man people voted for was black, was a Constitutional scholar, a man who, at the end of his tenure, might really have deserved the Nobel Peace Prize. Hope and change, you might say.

    Unfortunately, this man who sends his daughters to Quaker school became one of the greatest warmongers of our time, a President who believes in torture, a man who thinks any human can be a target for American assassination. A President who doesn't believe in Congressional approval.

    Sorry, but I don't see any way out of this nest of vipers...

  13. phil dude
    Joke

    competence is in short supply....

    See Article.

    P.

  14. Rick Brasche

    heh, if they cared about security they'd PROMOTE these books

    because often, there's some critical bit of information missing that, if one really has no clue about dangerous chemical reactions or nature of explosives, either makes a rather unimpressive flare instead of a BOOM, or makes that BOOM when being manufactured.

    Darwinism in action.

  15. Neil Barnes Silver badge
    Mushroom

    15:3:2 Saltpetre, charcoal, sulphur.

    Oh noes, I have information useful to a terrorist.

    Wait... so does the terrorist. And anyone else who can read. Perhaps the good Senator should just outlaw reading? It'd be easier than trying to remove data from the interwebs.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: 15:3:2 Saltpetre, charcoal, sulphur.

      Ban music too!

      http://www.prometheus-music.com/eli/filk/blkpowdr.html

      CHORUS:

      A

      Black powder and alcohol,

      D

      When the states and the cities fall,

      G E

      When your back is against the wall;

      A

      Black powder and alcohol.

      A

      Gimme charcoal to the measure two:

      F

      Send the bullet where you want it to.

      D

      Gimme sulphur to the measure three:

      A

      Make the powder gonna keep you free.

      G E

      Gimme saltpetre, measure fifteen:

      A

      Sweetest shooting that you've ever seen! (chorus)

      Gimme water, yeast, and veggie-trash:

      Leave it sitting in the slurry-mash.

      When it's ready, put it in the still:

      If you can't heat it, then the sunlight will.

      Draw the alcohol away, and then

      Put the slurry back, and start again! (chorus)

      Booze'll clean your cuts, or run your car.

      You can make it anywhere you are.

      Black powder in your cartridge shell

      Will send the robbers running clean to Hell.

      You can make them if you just know how.

      So kids, remember what I tell you now! (chorus & repeat

      chorus)

    2. Mark 85 Silver badge

      Re: 15:3:2 Saltpetre, charcoal, sulphur.

      I guess the Foxfire books should be banned. One of them shows how to make a flintlock rifle and gunpowder.

  16. cd

    Easy

    Since the internet is just tubes, we'll just close the valve on that one. Thanks, Senators!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Easy

      you mean to tell me that giving government control over the internet under the disguuse of "net neutrality" was possibly about nothing but info control after all? No Wai!

  17. Dave 32
    Devil

    Won't Someone Think of the Children...

    and ban Diane Feinstein from the internet? Every time her name appears, substitute it with an appropriate phrase, such as "whacked out, senile, crazy senator from Kahli-fornia". ;-)

    Anonymous (of course).

  18. Runty Dog
    Big Brother

    ...you can have my book when you pry it from my cold dead hands...DiFi is a twit, a very dangerous twit. She & her cohorts have been chipping away at freedom for a very long time. She does more long lasting damage to basic freedoms in a year than terrorists do in a lifetime.

  19. Me19713

    I guess that I'll have to forget everything I learned during my summer jobs at Ft Detrick and Edgewood Arsenal too.

    Maybe we should just ban science and engineering too.

  20. W. Anderson

    no such thing as Internet scrub

    The idea by Senator Feinstein, and indeep various other US politicians and most of the US population that documents and data can be fully and permanently "scrubbed" from the Internet has the tell-tale signs of severe ignorance and arrogance by Americans that they can now control every aspect of what transpires on the Internet throughout planet Earth.

    If ever the USA, or any other "western" power were to attempt such a mistaken action, it is likely that China would certainly create a separate Internet infrastructure for their own use, and probably get cooperation and support from Russia, many other Asian and mid-East countries as well from Africa. These entities probably won't care that the Internet as we know it would be permanently fragments, as long as it and their countries were not fully controlled by the "West".

  21. earl grey
    Facepalm

    Stupid Bint

    You've seen the picture. It goes with the definition. This is the American version.

  22. The Vociferous Time Waster
    Mushroom

    I went to buy charcoal

    I went to buy some charcoal on Amazon. At the bottom of the page it said "People who bought this also bought..." and had listings for potassium nitrate and sulphur.

    I have an aquire and keep certificate which means I can buy it ready made and keep up to 15kg. You can make up to 200g for personal and educational use so long as you do not cause any explosion meant to harm or cause damage to property.

    My school science teacher used to make black powder during class and it inspired a life long interest in science. Having said that he was put away for 8 years for raping pre teen boys so he was hardly a role model teacher.

    1. James O'Shea

      Re: I went to buy charcoal

      Some of the more hard-core re-enactors make their own black powder, and their own flintlock, matchlock, and percussion cap muskets, including rifled muskets. And cast their own bullets for 'em, including, of course, Minié balls. it is perfectly legal for them to do this. Every year the true hard core has little meetings, re-doing major American Civil War and American Revolution and even French and Indian War (Seven Years War, on the other side of the Atlantic) battles. Mostly Civil War stuff. They fire off blanks, and do target shooting, and generally have a fine time making things go 'bang!'. Should the good Senator attempt to mess with their fun, she'll find out what a 'well-regulated militia' is.

      1. The Vociferous Time Waster

        Re: I went to buy charcoal

        While that may be the case in the colonies things here under the watchful eye of her Madge are a little stricter

  23. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hours of fun for young inquisitive minds

    Oh the 'plosions we made in our youth.

    Still have all my limbs and eyes.

  24. Disko
    Mushroom

    FIRST YOU HAND IN YOUR GUNS AND BURN YER BIBLES

    Americans and their amendments schmamendments, Mrs. FeinThatcher is not the world police and has no jurisdiction outside the little territory across the pond.

  25. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Unhappy

    Was the "Anarchists Cookbook" the CIA's *best* disinformation excercise ever?

    Possibly.

  26. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    Dumb and dumber still .......

    Has Uncle Sam and fool supporting allies in the West and the City veered towards and embraced Fascism as the New Deal Way for their collapsed capitalism control with fiat currency future derivative?

    Don't they know anything about such an enigmatic colossal folly?

    Jesus wept. What a shower of plonkers be they.

    1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      Re: Dumb and dumber still ....... and the answer to ploys akin to final solutions

      Oh, and the answer to both of those questions, based upon all available and secret evidence, is yes and no.

      Thus one has every right to, in every and any way possible, resist, degrade and destroy perverted services? Such be one's abiding and even inimical duty?

  27. heyrick Silver badge

    That's still kicking around?

    I read the cookbook as a teenager (it did the rounds at school) and I thought it was pretty dumb then. Are people really dumb enough to try to make nitro glycerine in their kitchens? Actually...don't answer that.

    I can understand the idea, get it out of circulation and then only the real tearists will be making explosives. I just can't help thinking that going after the tearists in the first place might be better. And maybe work out how to stop the TV news breathlessly glorifying every bad thing that happens. Wouldn't that be more productive than trying to get rid of a really ancient document?

  28. MatsSvensson

    A humble suggestion

    Hey, here's another great idea:

    Stupidity causes a lot of problem in the world.

    So why don't we get cracking and fix that?

    ...preferably before next Tuesday, or something.

  29. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

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  30. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Trip back to the 80's indeed

    It really is hard to see any daylight between the current National Security State agenda and that of the USSR in the 1980's, or of today's "capitalist" China. Mass surveillance and book burning are the tools of dictators, not democracies. If much of the US Senate now favors their use, then it seems to me that they've turned their backs on democracy and their oaths of office.

  31. OmgTheyLetMePostInTheUK

    Senator Feinstein makes ass of self again...

    Senator Feinstein, back in 1995, was so ancient, she forgot that somewhere along the way, freedom of speech was put into our constitution.... But I am certain sometime in the past century or two, she has been reminded a time or two.

    Now add another 20 years to her age, and we are all in trouble.'

    I'm ashamed to mention that I was actually born in the formerly great state of California. Fortunately, for me, I no longer live there, and haven't for decades.

  32. Basic

    The Anarchists Cookbook?

    Anyone here not read it already? Hell, it was one of the first things I used a modem for.

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