Just a build up in supply chain, waiting for clearance for export to UK after Brexit
Belgian police seize 28 tons of cocaine after 'cracking' Sky ECC's chat app encryption
The Belgian plod says it seized 27.64 tons of cocaine worth €1.4bn (£1.2bn, $1.65bn) from shipments into Antwerp in the past six weeks after defeating the encryption in the Sky ECC chat app to read drug smugglers' messages. "During a judicial investigation into a potential service criminal organization suspected of knowingly …
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Thursday 8th April 2021 13:57 GMT Anonymous Coward
"breaking encryption"
Didn't the previous encrypted phone network get busted because the cops hacked the software update servers and introduced a backdoor'ed update the handsets then downloaded.
You know, like SolarWinds...
I guess its just another SupplyChainAttack(tm)
One way or another, it almost certainly didn't involve decrypting the messages in flight. One end or the other was compromised and made to dump the messages in clear.
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Friday 9th April 2021 15:58 GMT Al fazed
Re: "breaking encryption"
Apparently, until the general availability of desktop computers the CIA in collab with some other secret service or (wish I'd book marked the Register story) ran a security business with a machine that companies and governments could buy via an outlet in Germany.
Of course none that purchased this device knew it was actually owned by the CIA who now knew all their deepest vilest secrets plots and plans.
Problem with getting old, I forget to use Bookmarks, obvious incipient dementia, HELP
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Friday 9th April 2021 19:17 GMT Michael Wojcik
Re: "breaking encryption"
Didn't the previous encrypted phone network get busted because the cops hacked the software update servers
Not even. They got a mole hired by the vendor, according to reports.
Good ol' HUMINT-style sabotage. People have been saying for decades that intelligence and police agencies should stop fetishizing technological solutions and continue to use older, less-glamorous techniques where appropriate. The EncroChat takedown is a fine example.
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Monday 12th April 2021 20:43 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: "breaking encryption"
Well, unless all of the stories I've read are incorrect, encrochat was taken down by compromised update version getting pushed to about fifty percent of the handsets. They claim they did that with an attack on the update servers...
I guess an infiltrator could have made the changes to the server, but the articles I've read suggest it was done with a remote technical breach.
We'll probably never know the entire truth.
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Thursday 8th April 2021 14:35 GMT tiggity
Drug slang evolution
I'm obviously way out of date on my drug slang as back in the day blow as a slang term meant (in the UK) cannabis. *
Has the US blow = coke taken over everywhere now, or is it just a matter of a US writer authoring this article?
* No surprise given my age as its many years since I had los of friends who did drugs (AFAIK, who knows maybe plenty of my friends do decades later but I'm just unaware of it!)
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Thursday 8th April 2021 15:25 GMT Anonymous Coward
28 million grammes of coke
That's a huge amount of recreational drugs for a population of x million people.
busted today, not even like that is the total.
At some point someone is going to do the math and realise that a large percentage of people in Belgium don't consider doing lines of coke to be immoral even if it is illegal. These people are being criminalised despite a dominant ideology of the population.
recreational drugs are fun, by definition.
anon because its illegal to think this way, not because its bad.
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Thursday 8th April 2021 15:44 GMT Peter2
Re: 28 million grammes of coke
A large part of the population may well think "what's the harm".
At least the same percentage of the population would probably also react badly if somebody on drugs then stabs a member of their family while totally out of it, or ploughs a family down while driving under the influence.
I'm not particularly against the idea of allowing drugs to be sold legally, however as a quid pro quid I would expect a life sentence (and by that I do actually mean life) for people who make the choice to take drugs and then kill whilst under their influence.
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Thursday 8th April 2021 16:33 GMT Yet Another Anonymous coward
Re: 28 million grammes of coke
Imagine if there was a simple drug molecule that could be made at home and was widely available in Belgium and caused people to stab a member of their family and led to car crashes - I'm sure the Belgian authorities would crack down on it.
In comparison i think coke mostly causes bad ad campaigns
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Friday 9th April 2021 07:12 GMT CrackedNoggin
Re: 28 million grammes of coke
In the late 80's US urban areas were filled with crack smokers and cocaine injecters. Horrifying. It did result in a lot of crime and wasted away women selling their bodies on the street for the next hit. Crack + AIDS = Fast Death. Crack gives 30 minutes of pleasure followed by desperation for the next hit. Like the mouse hitting the pleasure bar repeatedly until it dies. A lot of people also got burned faces while trying to smoke the crack because it can easily explode.
Nowadays it is the speed freaks - c.f. buzznicked, faces-of-meth. Better value for money?
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Thursday 8th April 2021 17:14 GMT A. Coatsworth
Re: 28 million grammes of coke
Antwerp... Second busiest port in Europe, where goods from all over the world are received to be distributed in all of the continent.
But nope, that is not the case here. If the blow was found in Belgium then it is for local use only: Belgians consume coke by the kilo...
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Thursday 8th April 2021 16:09 GMT Anonymous Coward
"That's a huge amount of recreational drugs for a population of x million people"
Never ever consider Coke as being a recreational drug, it's not, treat it as a serious Class A drug, it was given that classification for a reason.
It bites far worse than it barks... it's a subtle bastard that will creep up on you very slowly but steadily.
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Thursday 8th April 2021 19:02 GMT Yet Another Anonymous coward
Re: OpenPGP
The encryption isn't the problem.
Distributing keys to groups of people, being able to message groups of people when you don't know if one of them is a police, getting apps that do this and can run on your phone, trusting that the app is written by the police - these are trickier
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Friday 9th April 2021 02:51 GMT Mark 65
Re: OpenPGP
I think Moxie whatever his name is went into the details in an interview as to what your typical issues are, much as you've indicated, and that the encryption of the message isn't really one of them. They are most likely using an open source (probably audited) library, however they've likely f*cked up the tougher parts of the implementation.
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Thursday 8th April 2021 19:04 GMT Anonymous Coward
Once again with feeling.......
Quote: "....police specialists managed to crack the encrypted messages from Sky ECC...."
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So some bad actors relied on "end-to-end encryption" provided by a service provider. We hear about this a lot (Whatsapp, Proton Mail, Telegram.......).
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But the backdoors are secret (for obvious reasons). How long does it take for EVERYONE to realise that relying on SOMEONE ELSE'S ENCRYPTION might be a poor idea?
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The snoops reading El Reg are welcome to have a go at this secret message on this subject!
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Thursday 8th April 2021 19:36 GMT jtaylor
Re: Once again with feeling.......
"How long does it take for EVERYONE to realise that relying on SOMEONE ELSE'S ENCRYPTION might be a poor idea?"
Do you suggest that each person create their own encryption, and don't use anyone else's encryption? How will those clevers communicate?
Don't you hate it when someone answers your question with a question?
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