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A bug-hunter who previously disclosed Windows security flaws has publicly revealed another zero-day vulnerability in Microsoft's latest operating systems. The discovered hole can be exploited by malware and rogue logged-in users to gain system-level privileges on Windows 10 and recent Server releases, allowing them to gain …

        1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

          Re: It's like saying that if you don't like eating cabbage...

          Wrong simile. If you don't like eating cabbage, you can not eat it.

          Once you're born here, it doesn't matter if you like it or not : there's only one way out.

          That is, until we have at least one colony somewhere else, but I suspect that that bitch would still gripe whatever the planet/moon/space station.

          1. Timmy B

            Re: It's like saying that if you don't like eating cabbage...

            Not quite. You can eat things you don't like (starving people will), or find something else you like more. If you don't like where you were born you can try to change it. You don't have just the choice to leave. Though that is one choice.

            Simile works as I didn't use an example where you were forced or eating would kill you. It's just a preference.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Some suggestions....

        I like this option best.

      2. Reg Reader 1

        Re: Some suggestions....

        @Thoguht

        "Unfortunately, there is a fourth choice:

        4. Try to destroy it"

        Oh yes, that's the Trump/Bannon method.

    1. Uffish

      Re: Some suggestions....

      Three sugestions only! That is a bit Spartan.

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    She should look in the mirror

    There's plenty in Western society to be disgusted by, but in tramping the wilds avoiding human contact, she is bypassing communities full of people that have similar feelings.

    In my experience most people simply want to live reasonably comfortable lives amongst similarly-minded people, and are not out to screw everyone else. What disgusts her about Western society is largely driven by politicians, business leaders and those who aspire to 'elite' status who, for sure, just want to be rich and give the middle finger to everyone else.

    Her words condemn her as being just the same.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: She should look in the mirror

      Guess she has Aspergers syndrome and this has not been pickup up by the environment earlier. Asperger people can be great contributors to society, but they often can't deal with people around them and need much personal space. Often being bullied in early life gets these kind of results, but under all the hard talk, most aspergers just want to be good people...

  2. GreggS

    She hates the West and likes exploring trails in northern England. Is she Russian? All she needs to add is enjoys cathedrals and that would be the giveaway.

    1. Timmy B

      "She hates the West and likes exploring trails in northern England".

      It's amazing how many people that hate the West are very, very happy to enjoy all the benefits of the West. Like being able to freely explore trails.

      Really she's just immature.

      1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

        A Heavenly Surprising Prize ..... ZeroDays Rule, .... ZeroDay Rules

        Really she's just immature. .... Timmy B

        As per any young Villanelle, Timmy B? That would be almighty challenging and rewarding helping her and sister spirits grow unbelievably strong and secure in host environments ..... Pandoras' Boxes Servering Lead Intel to Invested Clientelle for All Powerful AIMaster Command and Control Leverage/Virtually Almighty Great Game Play ‽ .

        In a mad artificial world do the really crazy follow or lead media trails with daily tales from or for Seriously Vetted Source Centres/Misinformation Hubs/Disinformation Networks?

        There is quite a difference and marked advantage in being one for rather than from the other.

        1. Tail Up

          Re: A Heavenly Surprising Prize ..... ZeroDays Rule, .... ZeroDay Rules

          "any young Villanelle" - IRL not just any, amanfromMars, and there are much one might be agree with in this pathetic sentence/sentiment (-:

          The next year hike trip is being planned since this post. One knows the agenda. AId invite valid.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Another day, another Windows problem

    Would all Microsoft apologists please use this thread so we have all the excuses in one place? That makes it easier to copy them for the next bug, probably tomorrow.

    Cheers.

  4. Buzzword

    She? How do you know?

    If the author is pseudonymous, how do you know that they are female?

    1. Gareth.

      Re: She? How do you know?

      She has previously posted on Twitter - although that account has since been suspended - and is still active on at least one other social media site. Some of those posts concern details of her (sadly quite troubled) personal life.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: She? How do you know?

        "still active on at least one other social media site. Some of those posts concern details of her (sadly quite troubled) personal life."

        You are correct.

        Unfortunately, Google now makes you log in using a valid Google account to read her blog.

        From reading earlier entries in her blog, it seems her troubles were either caused by, or made worse by, her belief that the FBI wanting to "get in touch" with her.

        Hence, her middle finger held high to the West.

        1. anonymous boring coward Silver badge

          Re: She? How do you know?

          Not the CIA? If it’s the FBI she would be a ‘Murcan then.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Terminator

    1988 called and wants its exploit back

    .. the exploit code .. clobbers pci.sys's access permissions so that it can be modified and overwritten by the user, thus opening the door to privileged code execution.”

    Didn't the Morris Worm use something similar, injecting a command into the task scheduler that over-wrote the password file.

    1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Re: 1988 called and wants its exploit back

      Not really. The Morris Worm exploited vulnerabilities in fingerd, sendmail, and rsh/rexec. It did attack passwords, but not by overwriting /etc/passwd.1 It tried some heuristics and a small dictionary against the password hashes;2 according to a 1984 study this approach could be expected to succeed on about 30% of accounts on typical UNIX machines of the day.

      The fingerd exploit was a BOF against gets() - perhaps the quintessential BOF, and likely the impetus for the interest in stack-smashing that eventually led to Levi's famous phrack article.

      The sendmail exploit abused the DEBUG command in sendmail, which was essentially a deliberate command-injection vulnerability, from a more innocent era.

      The use of rsh/rexec wasn't a program vulnerability but the architectural insecurity of the r-commands, which were often configured to allow remote execution to local users without credentials. The Morris Worm used that mechanism to spread among machines within organizations that used the r-commands.

      See Spaf's analysis for more details.

      1It didn't know anything about the shadow password file, which some UNIX variants, but not all, had started to use in '88.

      2UNIX crypt-derived passwords of that era were salted hashes generated by iterated DES encryption of a zero block using the password as the DES key. Due to the salt and the network bandwidth and storage limitations of the time, the worm had to rehash the dictionary for each salt value; it couldn't use a precomputed dictionary. Obviously retrieving hashes and doing an offline lookup or attack would have been more efficient, but dangerous (the cracking server could be identified), and in any case password cracking wasn't the worm's main goal or attack vector.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Wouldn't it be fun

    To drop each zero day the following day after Microsoft fixed the last one.

    Perhaps braindead corporate customers that blindly put their faith in Microsoft might wake up...

    1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Re: Wouldn't it be fun

      No, it wouln't. I doubt that Micrsoft's customers are all blind or braindead - they are, however, hopelessly addicted.

      Some are trying to fight that, which is why many, many servers in the corporate world are being switched to some flavor of Linux. The advent of Google Docs, among other things, means that small businesses no longer have to have Windows on their machines, so progress is being made.

      In any case, punishing users for the master's failures is unfair by any count.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Wouldn't it be fun

        The advent of Google Docs, among other things, means that small businesses no longer have to have Windows on their machines, so progress is being made.

        Is that not:

        (a) swapping one proprietary file format for another and;

        (b) voiding business secrecy and privacy via another route (instead of Windows 10)?

        I know the answer to (b), but on account of not being in a position to use Gdocs (because of aforementioned (b)) I have no idea in what format that works so I would genuinely like to know.

        Due to some politics and security requirements we mainly use Libre/OpenOffice and derivatives and use the European government document standard, ODF. There are maybe 2 machines left in our company with MS Office, also because we have no great wielders of spreadsheets (Excel is about the only product that has no comparable competition).

        1. bombastic bob Silver badge
          Devil

          Re: Wouldn't it be fun

          "The advent of Google DocsLibre/Open Office, among other things, means that small businesses no longer have to have Windows on their machines"

          more relevancy, though acknowledged "among other things" as including that...

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Wouldn't it be fun

          No and no.

          A) Google docs works in open formats (as well as Microsoft closed formats), and works on anything that can run a browser, including a totally locked down read-only secure boot device.

          B) Google paid business platforms have a totally different privacy policy to their free consumer products.

          I would prefer to use Google docs over office any day, it works much better, and is massively cheaper, per seat and TCO

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            what i don't like about google docs (and APIs)

            they change that shit without warning. at least when I ran office, if i didn't connect to the internet and didn't update the software, i had a stable operating environment.

            I work with Google APIs (gmail, oauth, drive, calendar) and when I go in to configure something and they've changed it AGAIN and I have to poke and stab at it to find what I need, that is my major frustration with web / mobile applications.

            other than that caveat, i can do some really cool stuff.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Wouldn't it be fun

      Ah yes sure that'll fix it because there are no security flaws in non-windows based software from other companies or open source developers.

      Reminds me of that song "There Are No Cats In America".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Wouldn't it be fun

        A secure boot, locked down device like a Chromebox is infinitely more secure than windows. Go look and understand chain of trust secure boot ..

        1. anonymous boring coward Silver badge

          Re: Wouldn't it be fun

          Infinitely? Infinity is quite a large number, you know...

    3. anonymous boring coward Silver badge

      Re: Wouldn't it be fun

      I like that idea!

  7. Blitheringeejit
    WTF?

    Not sure if it was a good idea...

    ...for El Reg to include links to a blog maintained by a self-confessed (indeed self-aggrandised) malware author. Drive-by, anyone?

    1. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

      Re: Not sure if it was a good idea...

      she gets about a bit

      https://sandboxescaper.blogspot.com/p/travel-photos.html

      1. DCFusor

        Re: Not sure if it was a good idea...

        Dunno, if smart - which appears to be the case, why not toss out all sorts of fake clues. All intelligence community "state actors" do that - make it look like some other country or actor did it. Anyone can find a buncha pictures, you don't have to take them yourself.

        (cough)UMBRAGE(cough)

        So, theory would be it's some fat American slob in mom's basement wanting enough dough for more video games or similar?

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      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Not sure if it was a good idea...

        Fascinating.

  8. LewisRage

    Already Patched

    From SBE's reddit post here https://old.reddit.com/r/AskNetsec/comments/brcr4n/new_windows_lpe_from_nonadmin/

    "Have fun. (won't work in insider builds, since hardlinks are patched)"

  9. Richard 1

    Easy to find.

    If this person is going to sell vulnerabilities then I would assume that she will quickly become of interest to various government agencies. She wouldn't be too hard to find as she's happily posting her destinations. A quick delta of flights into the local areas of her treks should quickly narrow down the list of perps.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Easy to find.

      Who do you think the biggest customers of 0-days are?

  10. bombastic bob Silver badge
    Devil

    60k can be earned in better ways

    someone with the security know-how to spot bugs like that COULD _EASILY_ earn more than this amount in an annual salary by being a Linux admin or security professional consulting with businesses, etc..

    The criminal mindset, however, precludes making this wiser [and less risky with respect to legality] choice.

    I think I'd get a salary that's TWICE the 60k, every year, doing a legit IT admin position, with everything else that comes with it. You know, like the BOFH. Despite the occasional problems with management, users, consultants, sales-droids, and so on, there's a nice 2nd floor window...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Devil

      "I think I'd get a salary that's TWICE the 60k, every year, doing a legit IT admin position"

      Sure, until they substitute you with some cheaper green card holder, or send your job offshore... once they moved all your servers to the cloud...

  11. Lee D Silver badge

    If a user can create an arbitrary scheduled task to run any given executable, it's game over anyway.

    That Windows helpfully repermissions your file that you want to run from a legacy imported scheduled task is really just icing on the cake.

    Presumably pci.sys is used because it's a "known" signed file that Windows trusts anyone to activate?

    Ordinary users should not have the capability to schedule tasks, nor should they have the ability to access the folder where scheduled tasks are kept, nor should they be able to execute arbitrary executables. Hell, they shouldn't even *see* the scheduled tasks panel, there could be privileged information in there!

    The problem is not some "new" exploit... it's just the same old complete lack of security on basic features, and "trusting users" the same way people did back in the days of Windows 3.1 or DOS.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "Ordinary users should not have the capability to schedule tasks"

      Why? Plain users may have several reason to schedule tasks, and you don't want to give admin permissions to every user who may need to schedule a task.

      Even in Linux you have per-user crontab files and jobs.

      The fact that the task scheduler should be better implemented is a different thing.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      You complete tosser. Of course regular users should have the ability to schedule tasks. But those tasks should run with the same permissions as that user and nothing more.

  12. disgruntled yank

    waxed lyrically

    Another story having to do with Brazil?

  13. DenTheMan

    A zero a day keeps the NSA at play.

    Alternatively,

    Must have outsourced the coding to China.

  14. MrKrotos

    Two more bugs on github

    https://github.com/SandboxEscaper/polarbearrepo/tree/master/angrypolarbearbug2

    https://github.com/SandboxEscaper/polarbearrepo/tree/master/sandboxescape

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I wonder...

    Did anyone else think, “I wonder if the “she’ referred to looks like Trinity in The Matrix”

  16. anonymous boring coward Silver badge

    That's my kind of gal!

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Nothing better

    Life just doesn't get any better than this, a damn fine coffee in the morning, Bombastic Bob, Amanfrommars and now the Sanboxescaper blogs.

    Like somebody else said, she's my kind of Gal. A hacker that likes hiking.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Nothing better

      Sounds like she needs a friend and a job. GCHQ?

  18. Tail Up

    4:3 это сцуко хоккей!!! ty US, RU

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      ++

      Tail Up ++. Better than a crossword puzzle with me coffee.

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