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The reality of the mammoth task facing the Home Office in preparing for Brexit appears to have sunk in – the department is seeking a technology lead for the UK’s exit from the European Union. They will be in charge of overseeing the EU Exit programme, which the Home Office described as "a layer of IT-enabled change that sits …

    1. Rich 11

      Re: So let me see if I've got this right

      and not only don't we have a paddle, someone has nicked the boat as well.

      Not only don't they have a paddle, but it was never possible to even design a boat to meet all Brexit requirements.

  1. Chris G

    They had hiyigh hopes......

    Sooo, it's mid August and they want something ready to go for Autumn?

    Assuming they find a taker who can actually do the job and doesn't get mugged on his way in on the first day, all the gov' then needs to do is get his mates to come and sort out; farming policy, science and technology across borders, customs tariffs and with whom etc etc.

    Is there actually one thing that is up and running for the departure?

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: They had hiyigh hopes......

      Blue passports, but a French company is sorting that out.

      1. Loyal Commenter Silver badge

        Re: They had hiyigh hopes......

        Blue passports, but a French company is sorting that out.

        And if (when) we don't get a deal, they'll be in a lorry parked up in Calais.

        1. H in The Hague

          Re: They had hiyigh hopes......

          "And if (when) we don't get a deal, they'll be in a lorry parked up in Calais."

          Actually, I _think_ that company's printing plant is based in the UK. But where are the paper and ink coming from? Hope they've ordered them early and they get delivered before stuff starts happening.

          1. Chronos
            Coat

            Re: They had hiyigh hopes......

            Woad is blue, isn't it? Just bring back the woad fund licence...

        2. Rich 11

          Re: They had hiyigh hopes......

          they'll be in a lorry parked up in Calais.

          And without a True Blue British passport no British citizen will be able to travel to Calais to retrieve them, while no non-British citizen will be able to cross the non-functional UK border in charge of a French lorry no longer licensed to visit Britain and carrying goods for which there is no IT system to record or evaluate the paperwork required by a regulatory framework for imports which has not yet been agreed.

          I'm beginning to think no-one ever really thought this Brexit idea through.

          1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
            FAIL

            I'm beginning to think no-one ever really thought this Brexit idea through.

            No one did.

            That was obvious from the day David Davies refused to request any any impact assessments be done by any department.

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    2. Jedit Silver badge
      FAIL

      "Is there actually one thing that is up and running for the departure?"

      Departing is definitely happening on schedule. The fact that we are insisting on disembarking from the plane on time even though takeoff was delayed for an hour and we are still in flight does not appear to be bothering anyone in Westminster.

    3. John G Imrie

      Is there actually one thing that is up and running for the departure?

      The escape pods for the MP's?

  2. nuked

    I'd want double that to work in Croydon

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      I'd want double that to work in Croydon

      I'd want double that to visit Croydon.

  3. TrevorH

    So.... interviews at the start of October, by the time they've interviewed the candidates and made their decision and had an offer accepted it'll be at least the end of October. Wait 3 months for them to resign and be released from their current job and they'd be starting around Feb 2019 and this all has to be up and running by March. So start in Feb, fired in March. Good job!

    Why the fsck has this person not been in place since June 24th 2016?

    1. John G Imrie
      Happy

      Pay

      So when they said £100k they meant for that one month. This is starting to look reasonable.

    2. GIRZiM

      Re: Why the fsck has this person not been in place since June 24th 2016?

      Three words:

      Dummies.

      Feebs.

      Retards.

      Or 'government' for short.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      If it's anything like our little corner of the public sector, the Director probably put in the request for headcount on June 24th 2016 but it's taken this long to get HR approval/paperwork sorted.

    4. Zippy´s Sausage Factory
      Joke

      Why the fsck has this person not been in place since June 24th 2016?

      Because it's all a plan to make the whole thing go so badly that there will be such a swing of opinion that the government will have no choice but to cancel it before the deadline?

      I mean, y'know, the other answer is that the government are completely, hopelessly incompetent, couldn't organise a drinking session in a brewery and make a chocolate fireguard look like a prudent and wise investment in health and safety materials...

    5. John Smith 19 Gold badge
      IT Angle

      "Why the fsck has this person not been in place since June 24th 2016?"

      Yes, that would be the IT question related to Brexit.

      The thinking behind it will probably be protected under a "year rule"

      30,40,50 or 70 do you think?

      It'll be at least 30 before this bunch want anyone to know the discussions on this clusterf**k were as shambolic as everything else.

  4. 0laf

    Managing the tech night even be possible. Managing the tech whilst dealing with the ever changing slimy morass of interfering politicians desperate to appear to be involved with any modicum of success and distanced from any hint of failure is close to the dictionary definition of the job from hell.

    Anyone who's do this for the money on offer is nuts. I'm sure there will be a queue out the door of 'technical' SPADs i.e. politics graduates that think they know their way round a Macbook with Dropbox installed.

  5. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Mushroom

    Unbelievable

    Are they deliberately trying to fail as massively, and destructively as possible?

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      Re: Unbelievable

      52% are.

      1. Pen-y-gors

        Re: Unbelievable

        52% in 2016 but falling rapidly, as far as the YouGov polls go.

        Actually, I have a theory...

        May and her criminal coterie are happy that everything is turning to shit on a daily basis. She did want Brexit, but has realised that it's impossible in any meaningful way. Problem: how to get out of it without ending up dangling from a (metaphorical) lamp-post with a howling mob waving pitchforks around her ankles.

        Answer - blame someone else.

        There's an interesting court challenge underway at the moment that claims that Art50 should not, constitutionally, have been invoked, and the blatant expenditure fraud by Leave means that the whole referendum should be annulled.

        Perfect opportunity for May. "Oh, pooh, blasted judiciary, but the law is the law and must be obeyed. I better withdraw Art 50".

        Shit-storm obviously follows, but at least not national bankruptcy, and May may manage to escape in an open boat in the confusion.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Unbelievable

          Shit-storm obviously follows, but at least not national bankruptcy, and May may manage to escape in an open boat in the confusion.

          Well, in that tidy little vignette that you paint, the Conservative party self-immolate and wouldn't be coming back for a long while (I won't miss them, judging by the shambles they've offered us for twenty five years or more), but that means by default the next government would be a Labour government led by Corbyn (or worse, a Corbyn led Labour SNP coalition).

          Given that Corbyn's political judgement makes Trump look like an elder statesman, and his rampant enthusiasm for Chaveznomics, how do you conclude that national bankruptcy would be staved off? Are you expecting the Palestinians to club together and bail out Britain when Corbyn's killed the economy?

          1. Aladdin Sane Silver badge

            Re: Unbelievable

            I'm expecting a Social Democratic Alliance.

            SoDemAll, if you prefer.

          2. Nick Ryan

            Re: Unbelievable

            Frankly, given that the average politician is only interested in themselves, all that's to differentiate the buggers is the colour of their tie. What colour lizard would you like to vote for next year?

            Politicians should be highly accountable, transparent and "pillars of society" leading by example. Instead we have a house largely of self obsessed career politicians never able to see further than the next election - i.e. whether they'll be in a job or not. Most are, of course, hedging their bets on the job loss or not by taking as many bribes, embezzling as much as possible and concentrating on "jobs for the boys".

            Cynic? Me? Yes. :)

          3. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Unbelievable

            @ Ledswinger

            "but that means by default the next government would be a Labour government led by Corbyn (or worse, a Corbyn led Labour SNP coalition)."

            That is the one thing that scares the hell out of me. Regardless of the other politics going on the scariest thing floating around currently is the possibility of that nutter getting anywhere near power. That would bring the doomed economy these crying children fear from brexit.

            1. Rich 11

              Re: Unbelievable

              That is the one thing that scares the hell out of me.

              That doesn't bother me so much. His leadership has so far been so half-hearted and weak that he'll never manage to get his Blairite MPs to toe the line if he puts forward any radical changes to the economy. He'd be hard pushed to get a few 1990s ideas through Parliament, let alone 1970s. And I say that as someone who would like to see more of a return to the consensus we had in the 1970s (though naturally without the global oil crisis which precipitated so many problems in the UK economy and society that decade).

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: Unbelievable

                @ Rich 11

                "That doesn't bother me so much. His leadership has so far been so half-hearted and weak that he'll never manage to get his Blairite MPs to toe the line if he puts forward any radical changes to the economy"

                Hopefully but some of the socialists did manage to get elected in this world and it didnt take long for them to ruin functioning countries. Even with a slim chance of success I still worry about some nutter like that getting anywhere near power because things can go wrong and very quickly.

                For example he took over the labour party who had finally realised that being extreme left wouldnt get them elected. The mistake labour made was having him as an option assuming he could never get in. Now he is the leader of a party with a hope of getting elected and even scarier there are some people who would actually vote for him!

        2. Hans 1
          WTF?

          Re: Unbelievable

          There's an interesting court challenge underway at the moment that claims that Art50 should not, constitutionally, have been invoked, and the blatant expenditure fraud by Leave means that the whole referendum should be annulled.

          No, no, no, no, no ... there has been a general election since the referendum, and that gave May the mandate to bankrupt the UK. If we pull out now, the leavers are never going to believe us, Brexit is, was and always will be nothing short of pure madness, we (remainers) knew this from the beginning.

          Anything that thinks that the UK can negotiate a deal that is beneficial for the UK, with a club of 500m people (8 times UK's size), as the UK is about to LEAVE!!!!!! needs a brain transplant. I have said it time and time again on here ... EU does not care either way, they'll take our industry, our banking, whatever they can as we leave and we can only watch as it unfolds.

          Project Fear is about to turn into reality, come on, lets keep this going for a few months ...

          In less than 5 years time we'll be on all fours, waiting inline, begging to be allowed back in ... ;-)

          I'd love a pint, gosh, it's Friday!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx4AF-3Rd44

          LCH, Airbus, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, IBM, Hitachi etc ad nauseam all moving considerable numbers of staff and funds to EU land.

        3. katrinab Silver badge

          Re: Unbelievable

          "There's an interesting court challenge underway at the moment that claims that Art50 should not, constitutionally, have been invoked"

          I believe there is another court challenge that claims that Article 50 hasn't been invoked.

          The Brexit Act does not say anywhere that we are leaving the EU. It merely authorises the Prime Minister to write a letter saying we are.

          Then there is Article 127, the equivalent in the EEA treaty. That definitely hasn't been invoked, and it requires 1 year's notice. So possibly, we remain in the EEA, like Norway, and the only practical difference from what we have now is that we don't get to elect MEPs.

    2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: Unbelievable

      "Are they deliberately trying to fail as massively, and destructively as possible?"

      No. It's all driven by arts graduates who have no knowledge whether what they're asking for is possible or not but have an unshakeable belief that it is. If it were otherwise we wouldn't even be in this position.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This job is one of those jobs that requires...

    Giving those in charge, a black box to hold, handed down from the Elders of the Internet.

  7. Warm Braw

    Desirable quality

    A graduate of (or clear willingness to complete) the IPA’s Major Projects Leadership Academy (MPLA)

    Given the MPLA constists of "three, five-day residential modules delivered over a 12 month period interspersed with a demanding schedule of preparation and assignments", there's plenty of scope for a successful candidate to be away "on a course" at the critical moment.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ha ha - good luck finding a sucker for that role..

    1. phuzz Silver badge
      FAIL

      They might as well just change the job description to "Wanted: scape goat." and leave it at that.

      Tell you what, I'll take four time my annual salary to be vilified in the press. How hard could it be?

      what you're expected to do in this role >>>>>>>>>

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I suspect it'll go to a non-UK

    EU national. Just for lolz.

    In fact, I might apply using my other EU nationality, and see if they're willing to fight a discrimination suit.

    As Brexiteers are fond of pointing out .... we haven't left yet so have to play under existing rules.

    1. Len
      Happy

      Re: I suspect it'll go to a non-UK

      It would be an ideal job for someone from another EU country. Take the money, try to learn as much as you can and when it inevitably comes crashing down you just quit and leave the country for sunny pastures new.

      Who cares that some local people and media may want to scapegoat you for the mess? Any employer outside the UK will know you were put in charge of a platform that was already burning before you got there. You're far away in your new job (walking distance from the Mediterranean or nice ski-resorts perhaps?) with hours of hilarious stories to tell.

  10. StuntMisanthrope

    Invisible Work.

    So a graduate year 2 salary in an investment bank for a position coordinating national infrastructure, without the means to buy a property in the area. #sixdecimalplaces

  11. Oneman2Many Bronze badge

    Has the government outsourced this to anybody yet ?

  12. Loyal Commenter Silver badge

    What's going on with these comments?

    Not one single, "don't you dare criticise our glorious brexit, you traitorous unbelieving remoaners" type post.

    @CodeJunky, where are you?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: What's going on with these comments?

      "@CodeJunky, where are you?"

      You have to say his name 3 times for him to appear.

      1. Loyal Commenter Silver badge

        Re: What's going on with these comments?

        Maybe the contract with his Russian handlers has expired?

        1. Aladdin Sane Silver badge

          Re: What's going on with these comments?

          Maybe him and Bob are interviewing for the job?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Pint

      Re: What's going on with these comments?

      @ Loyal Commenter

      "@CodeJunky, where are you?"

      As you miss me so much why not. You probably dont see many of those posts because this is an article on government screwup or daft job etc and Croyden. As far as I have seen both remain and leave criticize this government plenty, So since this doesnt really seem to bother brexit, just another example of government skill and ability why would you see many posts like you miss?

      Just sit back and enjoy the poking of fun at the gov and Croyden. Not everything has to be about blaming Russians and crying into your EU branded mug.

      1. Loyal Commenter Silver badge

        Re: What's going on with these comments?

        Looks like my troll bait worked.

        Having seen this one though, I think I'll throw it back. It's clearly still a juvenile.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          WTF?

          Re: What's going on with these comments?

          @ Loyal Commenter

          "Looks like my troll bait worked.

          Having seen this one though, I think I'll throw it back. It's clearly still a juvenile."

          I am not sure if I am flattered or should feel pity. You miss me so much you have to ask for me or your life is so unfulfilled without some EU arguing that you have to troll. I wish you the best and I hope things look up soon.

          1. nsld

            Re: What's going on with these comments?

            Ah the demonic love child of Farage and Bankski has risen, like a Frankenstien waiting for XP SP2 to be installed...

            Your shit show is going well @codejunky now the government has finally got round to leaking the 84 sectors reports on how much of a monumental gangfuck your brexit will be.

            And worse, you can't even ride to the rescue as some dubious politics student will get that gig.

            Can't hang around, got an entire economy to short (thanks Mogg and Redwood for the tips) disaster capitalism doesn't just capitalise itself you know.......

  13. WibbleMe

    I would certainly health care in my package for a shriek, that's going to be one of the toughest jobs to put out to tender in a long time.

  14. James O'Shea Silver badge

    I'll take it

    I'll just get my old British passport (and make damn sure that my Irish and American passports are up to date) and go and have a nice six to seven month vacation in the south of London. At the end I'll deliver the final report (I can start writing it as soon as I set foot in Britain, 'cause I _know_ what it'll say) and board a flight back to Deepest South Florida, one step ahead of the Hounds of MayNotVille, having sent my money ahead of me.

    They will have to pay me the 100K GBP in advance, though. Plus an allowance to cover relocation costs. And another allowance to cover renting a place near London. (Have you seen the prices lately? They're worse than Miami Beach, and the scenery's a whole lot better on South Beach!)

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