UK Foreign Sec Bojo to tell Kremlin: Stop your cyber shenanigans... or else!

Foreign secretary Boris Johnson will warn Russia that the UK will retaliate against cyber attacks in a rare visit to Moscow today. Johnson will tell his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov that "the UK will continue to defend its interests where they, and those of its allies, are threatened amid concerns that hostilities between …

[amanfromMars 1]

Oh that things were not just more of the same and normal/abnormal

I'm bound to say that I was irritated by your characterisation of our own Security Services as possessing somewhat toytown capabilities in terms of Cyber. .... Anonymous Coward

Methinks any Operating System with an effective Cyber Intelligent Security Service would never allow, let alone tolerate and be supportive of a public facing political establishment with nothing but belt-tightening austerity to offer as a media programming of the masses ...... ergo currently, for in the future there may be change with the introduction of greater intelligence and revolutionary information, is the charge that possess no more than somewhat toytown capabilities in terms of Cyber, perfectly valid and proven.

If they have what you think they have, then let them demonstrate and play with the ability and facility to prove its worth. Anything less is an abdication of their duty, is it not, and identifies their cyber services as a fraud being perpetrated against the public purse?

Some might recognise that as business as usual.

[amanfromMars 1]

Re: Oh that things were not just more of the same and normal/abnormal

:-)

And then the real danger and very great probability is, that whenever they ..... any supposedly proactive and protective national/international security agency is so negligent and dismissive and disorganised in the field, are they doomed to be ever chasing and extraordinarily rendered ineffectively reactive after the event in a cyber based landscape, to be be led by ...... well, their best wish would be by smarter virtual beings sympathetic and empathetic to their plight for there is equally likely to be the prospect of their systems and elite executive office administrations charging after phantom renegade rogues with more than just the delivery of dismay and destruction on their minds and well within their global capabilities.

And all for the want of engagement with that which they might well know of, for they may have been directly contacted and/or through the likes of these sorts of worded communications hereby informed, but which they might dismiss as being just too fantastic for reality, either present or future.

Such then can only be honestly considered as fools wedded to the past in a present where the future and misunderestimated A.N.Others take over and make over Global Command Head Quarter Control remotely and sublimely/stealthily and virtually anonymously, for such be the normal tools of production for presentation and propagation of Augmented Virtual Realities in Live Operational Virtual Environments and simple par for its courses.

How prepared to lead in the future do you think your own security intelligence services are in the light of such shared Great Games Plays of today? Is their silence and /or non apparent presence in the exercise field a cause for grave concern and a result of arrogant ignorance and lack of intelligence in-house.

Do they rely on trying to phish from surveilled environments for that which they are missing and fearful of? What a ripe recipe for guaranteed disaster that be.

Do Great Russian Bears suffer fools with blunted tools drivering mass developments ..... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-26/russias-military-leaner-meaner

[amanfromMars 1]

Oh, and by the way, all sorts of cyber shenanigans are not going away ...

..... to anywhere that cannot be reached anytime soon

Remember to never forget there are always both consequences and opportunities to be explored and exploited in the most common of novel tasks ..... Simple Words Create, Command and Control and Destroy Complex Worlds, both Real and Virtual. Share them wisely, ...... for do you not follow and hang out with them and fight for the right to hear them and write more about them?

And nothing new to say delivers politically incorrect paralysis and just more of the same old same old, and that is a nonsense? ..... Slugger O'Toole/MI5 Useful Fool?

IT's a crazy world indeed whenever you are not needed to know what is prepared and already in ideally secure storage for future delivery to you ...... and/for is that not the current state of Great Game Play and your present fate?

[Tom Paine]

"Retaliate against cyber attacks"?

Pew! Pew! Pew!

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: "Retaliate against cyber attacks"?

More like "eheu!, eheu! eheu! nec vir fortis nec foemina casta"

[Paratrooping Parrot]

Or else...

I will muck up trying to release a British citizen who has been arrested on trumped up charges and make his/her sentence even worse.

[Aodhhan]

What's happened to the UK?

Time to get rid of this prime minister and the rest of her party toadies. It's time to find people who understand good ole British strength. Tired of seeing England in such a yellow light. You wouldn't catch Churchill or Thatcher acting in this manner. They weren't scared to stand up to a bully in order to protect British interests.

You can't just waggle your finger at Putin and expect he'll do anything but laugh, kick your (now tiny) balls, and walk right over you.

Don't waggle and warn, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

[amanfromMars 1]

Re: What's happened to the UK? Are Colonel Blimp and Major Bluff in Charge of MOD Controls?

Don't waggle and warn, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. .... Aodhhan

And what does it show the world and their dogs of war, Aodhhan, whenever they don't and won't and can't do something/anything effective about it?

Getting the Right Stuff Staff nowadays is never going to be easy these days with so many other exotic and erotic global openings to explore and exploit/map and navigate for ....... well, surely mutually beneficial satisfaction and fabulous enrichment are surely still gold standard prime movers and Immaculate IMPerfect Drivers even in times and spaces where sub-prime ether plays havoc for CHAOS in rigged markets.

What Systems Operating Advanced Hosting Clouds do you follow and support?

[Lars]

Re: What's happened to the UK?

Try to stop blaming the rest of the world, for once try to take a look at yourself, your class society so well expressed in education and in your two party system. As one British author long ago wrote - the English have been so interested in studying other people that they have forgot to study themselves.

I have a feeling that the EU will try to save you, reluctantly, from your self, as you are run by a bunch of idiots right now.

Sometimes I think Charles de Gaulle knew you too well, but that would be about the generation of Brits that should not be around anymore.

[Boris the Cockroach]

Re: What's happened to the UK?

de Gaulle had his own opinions about the british.

Mostly that the germans could be forgiven for waltzing into France and giving it a good kicking, but never forgive the British and Americans for saving it.

hence oddities like Paris keeps Berlin time.... whereas pre-1940 it kept London time...

As for our class system, thats very much a product of the attitude "If it aint from Oxbridge, dont employ it" among top employers and "Only managed a PPE? well politics for you then (and a fat non-exec directorship when you get caught/booted out after securing us a multi-billion public services contract)"

You want to get rid of our class system?.... shutdown the 'public' schools and make education based on children's ability(whether its in sports, technical subjects or theorectical physics)

[Lars]

Re: What's happened to the UK?

@Boris the Cockroach

"hence oddities like Paris keeps Berlin time".

Perhaps, in order not to show you lack of knowledge, you should look at how GMT works in Europe and why, like here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Mean_Time

My advice for Britain would be to join Central European Time, business would gain from it and the cows would hardly oppose it either.

As for the rest of your comment, hogwash that too, however, happy new year to everybody, regardless if at times we wake up on the wrong foot at times.

Life is so unfair at times too, look the French went for the metric system too.

And think about all those American states with neighbours who decide to take a different time zone must be annoying and all because of the cows.

[DasWezel]

Re: What's happened to the UK?

"It's time to find people who understand good ole British strength!"

It's time to find people who understand getting their own house in order first.

[RayH]

Kremlin to ask Bojo: ...or else what?

Seriously though, how does Bojo deal with someone who's a bigger liar than he is? I mean, seriously, what have they done? They've lied to his face. It's not as if they painted their lie on the side of a bus and driven around the county in it for a few months.

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Kremlin to ask Bojo: ...or else what?

This time they do not even bother asking.

At least, when it was Milliband, Lavrov actually lost his nerve and told him to ho SFU with expletives That is something I have seen him do only once prior to that and several decades before he has become a foreign minister. With BoJo he is not even bothered to go that far.

[Anonymous Coward]

:)

"[Communist theory postulates] that the maximum welfare of the individual lies in, and in the long run is indistinguishable from, the realization of the maximum welfare of the society." Thus communism argues for the abolishment of all private property, and everything that is owned is owned by all members of society.

This theory, that all property is owned collectively, stipulates that everything a person creates and owns is also collectively shared with everyone else. The core principle behind the concept of public ownership is that every person is a product of society. Because each human is a product of society, anything he or she produces is also a product of society by translation. Therefore, anything that is produced should be owned by the society itself because no one person has solely produced it.

Every idea that is created is a product of society and will better serve society if it is shared and improved on. These ideas can be computer algorithms and software, and communists believe in the open sharing of this software.

The sharing of software and ideas benefits society because "human knowledge and the produce of human labour is used to the advantage of all society." In this thought framework, no programmer is compensated personally for their work: the entire society benefits by making source code available because everyone will collectively work on the software as well as collectively reap the benefits.

Communist theory about software is similar to traditional open source arguments: that source code sharing can provide greater access by multiple people, and therefore the greatest minds can all work on it at once, thus producing higher quality software.

[amanfromMars 1]

Re: :)

:-) Hmmmm? Quite AIHeavenly State, AC. Is its converse, mercantile capitalism, quite hellish for all but a chosen few?

[Anonymous Coward]

Boris

Meet Natasha

[John Smith 19]

Re: Boris...Meet Natasha

I don't know about any Natasha, but he already has a "Fearless Leader."

[Zippy's Sausage Factory]

I'd enjoy it if Lavrov decided to reply like this:

BOJO: "Er, stop all your cyber shenanigans, right now."

LAVROV: "Da, agent Johnson" *wink*

That would be a masterful bit of trolling...