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Thinking of buying a new iPhone 5 after it gets announced later today? Don't. Owning it will mark you out as an easily-led simpleton - and worse, the purchase will undermine western democracy. Our last digest along these lines was published prior to iPhone Day last year, but as it turned out - and who are we to say just why - …

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    1. Giles Jones Gold badge

      Well it seems that the whole "Flash" argument has finally dissolved, who remembers all the fuss that used to generate on here.

      In fact, it's a limitation now, the iOS version of iPlayer lets you download lots of programmes to watch when you want (30 days to watch). The Android version still uses Flash, so you can only stream with a data connection, not much good abroad or on the plane.

      1. ArmanX
        Facepalm

        The iPlayer doesn't work as well on a non-iOS system?

        I'm shocked, simply shocked!

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: The iPlayer doesn't work as well on a non-iOS system?

          So you'd EXPECT a BBC application to work less well on a non Apple device? Personally I'm surprised - I'd have expected it to work as efficiently and usefully on all platforms that it's designed to run on.

          1. toadwarrior
            Trollface

            Re: The iPlayer doesn't work as well on a non-iOS system?

            You'd think that but given android is the work of communists and offer no way for honest hard working artists to secure their content so the thieves can't get at it, that means the BBC can't do anything until android allows someone other than one advertiser to make money on the platform.

      2. Unicornpiss
        Flame

        Maybe, but...

        You can still put as much video, audio, etc. as you want on a removable SD card and watch it on your Android, then swap the battery with a fresh one when it becomes low due to watching all that media... And you can choose what player you want to use too.

        I deal with iPhones every day at work. They've become all the rage and our company is phasing out Blackberry devices. After the buzz wears off, our users find that hey, even their old, crappy Blackberry does email, calling, and texting better in an enterprise environment than their shiny new toy does. To say nothing of battery life.

        Seriously, the more iPhones I deal with, and the more Apple user accounts I have to set up, the happier I am with my Android device. Apple may "just work" (though often it doesn't), but Android just works better.

    2. Amorous Cowherder
      Happy

      No Wifi hotspot sharing!

      No ability to set up a shared Wifi Hotspot, that's reason I dropped my iPhone and went Android.

      Worked out great on holiday when I had my daughter and my wife, both Apple users and both desperate for a little net access. Oh dear, what to do. Well let me just flip this here toggle on my phone and voila, I'll let you both use my much derided ( in my house at least ) but now venerated Android phone with it's valuable wifi hotspot! They were both happily sponging off my Android SGS2 hotspot, both at the same time while I was browsing using my ASUS tablet.

      Apple tech is nice but I want my tech to do stuff not just look nice thanks!

      1. the-it-slayer
        Happy

        Re: No Wifi hotspot sharing!

        Huh? Course there is! Something called Personal Hotspot that's been there since the iP4 came out. And it works over Bluetooth/USB.

        Anyway, I'm sure the BBC made the clear cut decision from their usage stats to show that Apple devices hit iPlayer the most. Common sense says you update the iOS app first.

        Apple tech is very nice. Better than anything else IMHO :).

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: No Wifi hotspot sharing!

          "Anyway, I'm sure the BBC made the clear cut decision from their usage stats to show that Apple devices hit iPlayer the most. Common sense says you update the iOS app first."

          I suspect more people are likely to use a service when that service has been optimised for their hardware. Unless you can present these fictional stats though you're talking crap.

          It's long been suspected that the main reason the iPlayer better supports iOS than Android is because most of the Media Studies BA types who work for the beeb use iPhones.

      2. Aitor 1
        Thumb Down

        Re: No Wifi hotspot sharing!

        http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4517

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: No Wifi hotspot sharing!

          "Personal Hotspot requires a supporting hotspot tethering plan from your carrier. The maximum number of supported connections is five, but this number may vary depending on your carrier or iPhone model."

      3. Bill B

        Re: No Wifi hotspot sharing!

        I wish people who make these statements would check their facts. I find the wifi hotspot sharing on my iPhone very useful. Bit of a battery drainer though.

      4. PiccoloKu

        Re: No Wifi hotspot sharing!

        I use my iPhone to provide wifi to my tablet and laptop every day. What on earth are you talking about no ability to set up shared Wifi Hotspot? I can share with up to five different devices simultaneously. I'd say it's your service provider, cause it's definitely not the iPhone, providing it's an iPhone made within the last 3 years.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: No Wifi hotspot sharing!

          Well sadly if you're on scum O2 and you have monthly plan that started pre April 2011 you are not entitled to tethering in the contract, you have to change tariffs or pay extra for tethering option to be added before the phone will enable internet sharing!

    3. JEDIDIAH
      Linux

      The n00b mating call...

      ...you kid but in all likelihood I can probably attach a floppy drive to my phone.

      That's the difference between a platform that enables the end user and one that just puts up pointles barriers.

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Reason for Apples success....

    ....to quote H.L. Mencken

    "No one in this world has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people."

    1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: Reason for Apples success....

      Upvote for someone who knows Mencken.

      1. JimmyPage Silver badge
        Thumb Up

        Re: Reason for Apples success....

        Indeed ... I consider it a duty to quote Mencken as often as possible ...

        "The only good bureaucrat is one with a pistol at his head. Put it in his hand and it's good-bye to the Bill of Rights."

        "Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy"

        "Laws are no longer made by a rational process of public discussion; they are made by a process of blackmail and intimidation, and they are executed in the same manner."

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Reason for Apples success....

      Taken from the Frank Harris auto biography in the context of editing the "Evening news" newspaper. circa 1880. " No one ever sold a newspaper by overestimating the intelligence of the average reader." I'm not sure if the original wasn't Northcliffe.

  2. jai

    weird - of all the iPhones i've owned, i've never, ever, had a need to swap the battery.

    i dunno why you lot get so hung up on it as a feature.

    It used to be, before Apple came on the scene, that if you had a small pocket computer then you or anyone else could write programs for it and you could run them on your machine that you owned without asking the people who had made it.

    you know, you can get the SDK for free. you can write apps for yourself to your hearts content.

    1. Tom 11
      Facepalm

      Weird...

      Most iPhones I purchase for my company are replaced annually because of battery fails. They are also the devices that cause most crap because the sort of people that request them over Android are morons, and need baby sitting through every aspect of interfacing with a piece of technology.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Weird...

        Nice fairy tale the Tom 11.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Weird...

        I guess sort of people you mean are non-geeks? there's a whole bunch of people out there who really don't give a toss how things work, they don't care about ini files, registries or databases.

        Have you noticed most people just drive cars? they don't repair them or know how they work?

        Some people have hobbies like history, literature and so on. Their hobbies don't include computers and therefore they don't wish to know any more than the knowledge required to do a task.

        Try thinking outside of the 'geek' box once in a while.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Weird...

          "I guess sort of people you mean are non-geeks?"

          No, but simple people like yourself.

        2. Tom 11
          Mushroom

          Re: Weird...

          Yes AC, but they still seem to end up on here, a tech website, spouting their two penneth worth regardless....

          1. Bit Brain
            Joke

            “…their two penneth worth…”

            Brought to you by the Department for Redundancy Department.

        3. Charles 9

          Re: Weird...

          "Have you noticed most people just drive cars? they don't repair them or know how they work?"

          Shirley, no one's given a license to drive a car without being able to perform at least BASIC maintenance on it: learning how to check the oil, top off the basic fluids, knowing where the jack and the spare tire are in the boot (in case you get a flat in the middle of nowhere)? Similarly, there are things about electronics (or anything else) which should be considered "basic maintenance" and are considered part of the cost of having the device.

          1. kns2c

            Re: Weird...

            "Shirley, no one's given a license to drive a car without being able to perform at least BASIC maintenance on it"

            I hope you are being sarcastic. Obtaining a DL here in PA entails 1) answering test questions like "what is this octagonal sign with STOP on it?" 2) driving around a parking lot and maybe around a block if the DMV person is feeling adventurous, and 3) parking the vehicle in a school-bus-sized spot. If they started asking maintenance questions we would have a 90% failure rate and that would be bad for business. Same reason why there can't be any tests to qualify for owning a gun, let alone a computer or a phone.

        4. JEDIDIAH
          Linux

          Re: Weird...

          The "you must be a mechanic fallacy".

          You don't have to be a mechanic to benefit from the fact that the guy next to you can be one. The fact that you can be means that he can be and he can do all of the hard work for you.

          Although more than anything, a product that isn't "geek hostile" is likely to have more thought put into it. The demanding user will be considered. It doesn't have to be a "geek". It could just be someone that puts the product through it's paces. You can do that without being a "geek" or a "mechanic".

          Apple's "let's lower the bar" mentality is what led me to hack and jailbreak my iPhone. It should not have been necessary but it was. It was just a reflection of Apple ignoring the serious user. This made an iPhone more of a bother than an Android.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Weird...

        "Weird...

        Most iPhones I purchase for my company are replaced annually because of battery fails. They are also the devices that cause most crap because the sort of people that request them over Android are morons, and need baby sitting through every aspect of interfacing with a piece of technology."

        E X A C T L E Y!!

        The oh so clever becuase I own an idiotPhone always need their hands held when talking about tech. The simplest of things, explained in the simplest of ways, for the simplest of people.

        Own an idiotPhone and be seen as an idiot! Can't put it simpler than that!

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Weird...

          "E X A C T L E Y!!"

          *facepalm*

          For someone who spends all his time pontificating about how everyone else is either an "idiot"* or "moron", you don't come across as the sharpest knife in the drawer.

          * Or occasionally "idoit", hilariously

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Weird...

            A mal-idoit ?

      4. Root Ginger

        Re: Weird...

        Haha, the batteries haven't failed they just want the latest iPhone and that's how they get one.

    2. Andy ORourke
      Happy

      Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

      Of all the PHONES i've owned, i've never, ever, had a need to swap the battery

      1. Captain Underpants

        Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

        @Andy

        I've never had to swap the battery during normal use, but I have replaced dead or dying batteries to keep the handset usable for another year or so. Seems tedious that Apple decided to remove the option.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

          If you believe the Fandroids on here then a phone becomes unusable after a year or two anyway because the screen is too small, it doesn't have 1GB of RAM or it doesn't have a quad core CPU.

          1. wowfood

            Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

            Yeah, fandroids are the ones who need to change their phone every year, oh wait no sorry my mistake, it's fanbois who need to have the latest iThing the day it comes out.

            "I can't believe it, I asked for a new iPhone and my *insert family member here* got me a 4 instead of 4s, I might as well slit my wrists right now"

            The only problem with androids are when you get the branded versions and the pre-installed crap from orange or *insert vendor here* and even then just root it and it's gone.

            That's the other point, jailbreak an iPhone you can install your own aps on there, but you're still on an iPhone 3. root a gingerbread handset and you can upgrade to ICS. Just because the company who made it doesn't give an update to your handset, doesn't mean you can't find one online you can install.

          2. Manu T

            Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

            "If you believe the Fandroids on here then a phone becomes unusable after a year or two anyway because the screen is too small, it doesn't have 1GB of RAM or it doesn't have a quad core CPU."

            Only the high end devices have these specs (which are in essence only 5 or 6 devices being sold). The majority are far less equipped. Android runs pretty well on these less equipped devices too.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

          Yeah, having had to replace the battery on my Macbook Pro recently, I have to say that the current gen retina models with the glued in batteries give me the yips, too.

        3. Lars
          Pint

          Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

          I have replaced several batteries too, but I think it is possible to do it on the iphone too only you will pay for it at an apple shop. When sailing I have an extra battery and also an extra (old) phone and no apples.

      2. AndrueC Silver badge
        Thumb Down

        Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

        Swap, no. My colleague has nearly had to though because his Desire HD barely gets through the day on one charge. However I was glad I could upgrade to a 3aH batter on my Desire. It now lasts three, sometimes four days between charges.

        1. toadwarrior

          Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

          What does the desire HD have to do with anything? My lenovo get 5 hrs of battery life on a bulky oversize battery but that means nothing in terms of my mac which can get 10 hours battery life.

          Likewise judging ever phone based on one is stupid.

      3. Swarthy

        Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

        Never needed to swap the battery, but I have had to do a battery-pull (extra) hard reset.

        If you can't pull the power, what do you do when it locks up tighter than a nun's nickers? I have had to to that for laptops, phones, and even PCs.

        1. Neil 8

          Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

          "What do you do when it locks up tighter than a nun's knickers?"

          Hold POWER+HOME until it powers off. Although this combo is detected by the OS if operational, after 10 seconds it's a hardware reset switch which cannot be prevented regardless of what's locked up. I imagine it's implemented this way *because* you can't just pull the battery.

          I've had to do this a few times to a jailbroken iPod Touch.

      4. toadwarrior

        Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

        I've never owned a second battery for a phone. Unless you work in the desert, it's not hard at all to top up a phone at some point in the day. It's even easier with USB leads being standard so you can charge up on PCs and not worry about being caught out using someone's power socket.

        A second battery seems like a waste of money unless you work in a remote place and happen to talk a lot or play games rather than working.

        1. hplasm
          Devil

          Re: It's even easier with USB leads being standard

          Just like the iPhone!

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......

          "Unless you work in the desert, it's not hard at all to top up a phone at some point in the day. It's even easier with USB leads being standard so you can charge up on PCs and not worry about being caught out using someone's power socket."

          Or you could just carry the spare battery (you can get them for less than £10 btw) and not have to top up at all during the day. Seems easier than carrying a 1 metre USB lead + 30 pin adaptor + 3 pin mains adaptor and then having to hunt down a power socket you can use for free without getting into trouble.

        3. Frumious Bandersnatch

          2nd battery (was Re: Jai, I agree but with this qualification......)

          A few years ago I was using a basic Nokia 6310 phone. I think that's the model number. Anyway, it had pretty good standby time for the most part--probably about 2.5 days. The big problem with it, though, was that if it went out of coverage it meant that it ramped up the power to the GSM radio so if I forgot to turn it off or keep it on charge during the day (we had very bad coverage where I worked), I'd have a flat phone by the end of the day. That's the first reason people want a replaceable battery--as a backup in case they get caught with a flat battery and no easy way to recharge once they notice it.

          The second reason is that batteries deteriorate over time. A three-year old phone won't last as long as the day you bought it. I agree totally with the article here--it does seem like a very cynical ploy by Apple to keep you on the upgrade cycle to the next shiny, when really all that's wrong with the 3-year old phone is that it needs a new battery.

    3. Steve the Cynic

      Not exactly free - it would cost me the price of a Mac to run the development system on...

      1. Archibald Trumpetbeetle

        And the $99 dev account, otherwise you're just stuck

        with the emulator, unless you jailbreak the phone.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        @Steve

        Ahhh - I didn't realise that you could develop for android on the palm of your hand? No? What - you need to buy a computer for that too?

        Dumbass.

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