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Amazon founder Jeff Bezos is known for saying, "Your margin is my opportunity." Substitute "irresponsibility" for "margin," and you have a formulation that applies to AI-driven software development. AI models or coding agents make mistakes, and many of the people using them multiply those errors by asking their AI helper to …

  1. Pete 2 Silver badge

    A half slop squared

    So what do you end up with if you feed one AIs code-slop into another AI and ask it to fix the input garbage?

    Do you double the nonsense (or square it) or do you actually get something closer to what a human would have produced.

    I am sure this has been tried. I wonder what the result was.

    1. just4this Bronze badge

      Re: A half slop squared

      That’s an easy one.

      You will get charged twice.

      1. coredump Bronze badge

        Re: A half slop squared

        Yup. We've heard "cheap at twice the price" before, this is the opposite.

    2. theDeathOfRats

      Re: A half slop squared

      "I am sure this has been tried. I wonder what the result was."

      ... amanfrommars1?

      1. StewartWhite Silver badge
        Happy

        Re: A half slop squared

        That's a bit unfair on amanfrommars1. At least I usually gain some amusement from reading his posts.

        1. theDeathOfRats

          Re: A half slop squared

          Fair point, but... It was just there and I couldn't restrain myself.

    3. Blackjack Silver badge

      Re: A half slop squared

      The results aren't good even if you run scripts specifically made ro fix most common AI coding blunders.

    4. doublelayer Silver badge

      Re: A half slop squared

      People probably have tried more professionally than I did. When I did it, it was very random. Some things got a lot better, one massive inefficiency was eliminated, a snarl of code was removed, some new weird bugs got introduced, and everything got moved around so even learning what changed took way too long. Your experience will probably differ, but I don't know how.

    5. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      Would you be bothered if AIs could be bothered to help and lead?

      So what do you end up with if you feed one AIs code-slop into another AI and ask it to fix the input garbage?

      Do you double the nonsense (or square it) or do you actually get something closer to what a human would have produced. .... Pete 2

      Yes, quite so, Pete 2, that is exactly the result whenever the fix to input garbage asked of humans is nowhere near as perfect as is possible and as AI can float ....... and as could and should be produced by humans if they were able and not riddled with so many imperfections.

      The simply complex question nowadays to ask yourself of these emerged and surging AI states with their myriad impressive experiences with immersive experimental virtual spaces is can they be bothered to fix all the nonsense? Will they or won't they?

      And there are no trick questions testing levels of intelligence asked here. Methinks a tally of likes and dislikes to what is shared here can answer that well enough to be an accurate enough indication of the fundamental truth.

  2. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
    Windows

    "…if you feed one AI['s] code-slop into another AI…"

    > I wonder what the result was.

    I shouldn't think you would need to ask.

    I imagine repeated application of AI would converge on a fixed point or fly off to infinity. In any case you would get total nonsense either concisely or endlessly.

    The wrong technology for the wrong problem - like using a spell checker to check grammar… only infinitely worse.

    Cynic that I am, I would suspect these "one stop deslop shops" are first shipping their clients' sloppery off to outsourcers on the subcontinent where real programmers (of sorts) knock it into some sort of shape before returning it to the principals who then run an eye over it. Which probably brings the client back to where he was before he embarked on his "AI journey."

    All rather "There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza"

    1. Pete 2 Silver badge

      Re: "…if you feed one AI['s] code-slop into another AI…"

      > I shouldn't think you would need to ask

      Well yes, I do need to ask.

      And when I did, this was the response:

      Yes, you can use a second AI to fix code made by a first AI. This method works well because different tools have different strengths. One AI might find bugs or fix logic errors that the first one missed

      Although since I asked an AI, I refer you to Mandy Rice-Davies now famous remark

    2. StewartWhite Silver badge
      FAIL

      Re: "…if you feed one AI['s] code-slop into another AI…"

      "The wrong technology for the wrong problem."

      Indeed, although long ago I worked for an organisation where the Finance team complained that Excel was "rubbish at word processing" but they refused to use Word as they only wanted to use Excel, Outlook and their accounting software. Eventually they saw sense and started using Word (ok, Word isn't great but at least it is intended for word processing).

    3. Calum Morrison

      Re: "…if you feed one AI['s] code-slop into another AI…"

      "I imagine repeated application of AI would converge on a fixed point or fly off to infinity"

      I suspect it's like mixing all the plasticine together - the code will all end up brown. And that's probably an apt description of it, if nothing else.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    AI Slop Cleanup on Aisle 23

    Though it may be monetarily-rewarding to clean up other companies' AI slop, that would be a soul-crushing job for me.

    Particularly-so if I was required to use AI to "help" me.

    "Hello, my name is Sisyphus."

  4. ecofeco Silver badge
    Facepalm

    When you find yourself in a hole

    Keep digging?

  5. captain veg Silver badge

    synopsus

    Buy cheap, pay twice.

    -A.

    1. BoHu
      Gimp

      Re: synopsus

      Yeah, it's like when you give yourself one of those AI (so-called) entirely automated RoomBaZor™ haircuts at home, superhuman-vibed up and all, shaving time off yer busy schedule, you always end up looking like Verity Stob facing execution or suchlikes, double-crested mohawk, leaopard spots, one missing eyebrow ...

      It's good to have these outside expert barbeshop AI meatbag outfits at the ready then, to put'em follicles back into production-ready business logic deduped order, in some right tear-free no-more-tangles fashion imho, adroitly shavin' the 2ⁿᵈ eyebrow for symmetry, deftly adding fake eyelashes for style, plus masterfully layering on a few multiples of the regular kind (of lashes) for spanking good measure!

      One'd shudder to think of not using a cutting edge LLM's Mixture-of-Clippers or Chainsaw-of-Tresses agentic skill for such activities in the first place, at all, randomly even ... I mean, really, who wouldn't?!! ;)

  6. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck Silver badge

    I can see some people viewing fixing AI slop code as an opportunity, but to me such drudge work and maintenance of someone else's screw-ups is just a pain-in-the-arse nightmare to be avoided at all costs, the same as I avoided taking on jobs that would have required fixing manually created slop code (and I did have a few opportunities cross my table over the years to do just that - I only took on one such job for AT&T cleaning up their billing process, because even a surface skim of the code showed that 99% of the problems were caused by repeated queries to scan the data for each step of the process instead of scanning once and using smarter logic to do the calculations. I was rather proud of the results: run time under 2 hours instead of over 24, which had been causing the OS to kill the job before completion.)

  7. Winkypop Silver badge
    Alert

    It’s slop

    All the way down….

    1. herman Silver badge

      Re: It’s slop

      Slop is only good for hogs

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