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The UK is spending more than £1 billion ($1.35 billion) setting up a new Cyber and Electromagnetic Command and is recruiting a few good men and women to join up and staff it. In an announcement on Thursday, Defense Secretary John Healey said the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks, saying that the UK …

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  1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

    "by attracting the best talent"

    Uh-huh, sure, and you're going to attract said talent by paying them how much per month ?

    Look, I applaud the goal but, given that private security companies themselves are having trouble protecting themselves and their customers from attacks - are they are billing big bucks for that and, I hope, paying their "best talent" appropriately, I've got the sinking feeling that UK Gov is going to find itself in a bind because attracting the best talent is going to mean paying said talent the same as a Minister.

    And we all know that that is simply not acceptable.

    1. Tom Chiverton 1

      Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

      Large "private security companies" aren't interested in the best. Security is a cost centre, they want to drive that down. So what if they leak some customer data now and again. Say "sorry", pay a small percentage of annual turn over as a fine, carry on.

    2. Alumoi Silver badge

      Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

      ...are having trouble protecting themselves and their customers from attacks...

      I think you mean 'are having trouble making people belive they didn't sell that juicy data by blaming state sponsored hackers'.

    3. Jellied Eel Silver badge

      Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

      I've got the sinking feeling that UK Gov is going to find itself in a bind because attracting the best talent is going to mean paying said talent the same as a Minister.

      Up to £65k is better than it used to be for this kind of role, and hiring people purely motivated by money often isn't the best idea. But it'll still likely sufffer the typical brain drain with people doing a few years and then heading for greater riches in the private sector. They also probably want to hire talent that can think outside the box, yet are planning to put them deep inside the box.

      Which might also be a challenge given Corsham isn't exactly a bustling metropolis with a lot of affordable housing. It does have some scope for extra-curricular field work, like penetrating & infiltrating the cheese & wine caves there <hic>.

      1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

        Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

        Yup, that was the exact path I took. I joined the US Army out of high school, did 6 years as a satellite communications tech, and turned that into a lifelong career in fiber optics - with almost no college at all. I sit on my ass at home and troubleshoot equipment I've never seen in person, sending field techs out to be my hands.

        Depending on what the British government retirement pla is, even with lower pay this might be worth jumping on.

        1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

          "Depending on what the British government retirement pla is, even with lower pay this might be worth jumping on."

          Unless it's radically changed since my day it won't be worth it.

        2. Jellied Eel Silver badge

          Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

          Depending on what the British government retirement pla is, even with lower pay this might be worth jumping on.

          Not as good as it used to be, but it would still offer a lot of benefits. I hate to think how much traffic heads the MoD's way ranging from skiddies with toolz to state actors and more serious & organised criminals. Defending against that lot would be quite a challenge.. And then there's the offensive stuff. Plus there would (hopefully) be career development and progression opportunites that are often lacking in the private sector. Businesses are often very bad at career development, so struggle with retention. MoD is a rather large business, so hopefully could do better. Plus staff should be able to take skills and jump diagonally into other parts of the Civil Service, or quangos where the pay & benefits could be better.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

      The 'non-naturalised British citizens' is also utterly stupid.

      I actually know where that came from, and it's the most stupid event ever in the history of government IT, sadly classified.

      Morons, the lot of them.

      1. J.G.Harston Silver badge

        Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

        The 'non-naturalised British citizens' is also utterly stupid.

        That may be what you think, but this is the security services, and - to paraphrase FedEx - you absolutely, positively, completely, entirely, fully, thoroughly, utterly, wholly do not want foreigners in your security services.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

          So someone like Nigel Farage or friends would be trustworthy?

          LOL.

    5. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

      The expectation is that Russia or China is going to pay the remaining 3/4 of the salary.

    6. LucreLout

      Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

      Their best option for staffing is going to be late career folks who have killed their mortgage, fallen prey to ageism, but who aren't ready to retire yet.

      Given how rampant ageism is these days, there would be no shortage of potential recruits.

      I might even be up for serving in dangerous places too by then. I mean, during in your 20s you lose 60 years. Dying at 55 you're only really losing 20. Probably a lot less by the time the risk manifests. Better than some kid dying instead.

      1. anonymous cat herder

        Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

        But I very much doubt if the Army would let you work from home, they will want you on-site in the bunker. Shame really, there are a lot of keyboard warriors that could contribute otherwise.

    7. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks"

      They can probably hire an entire drop-in team who have left or en route out of CISA.

  2. werdsmith Silver badge

    Good money for cyber security guys, but who would want to be the guy responsible?

    If your business comes under attack then you are in an adversarial engagement, and the enemy have most of the cards and a few up their sleeve.

    Like being the vulnerable tailgunner in a WW2 bomber.

  3. Andy The Hat Silver badge

    "the new Command would protect all military networks from attacks,"

    A) the "command" would do no such thing, it would coordinate the purchase of software and hardware from "trusted third parties" and AI companies.

    and

    B) isn't this software/network hardening supposedly part of GCHQ's remit via the National Cyber Security Center?

    1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      Picture it: a grim-faced general striding through the MoD’s open-plan office, barking to his £40k-a-year cyber foot soldiers.

      “Sergeant! Report!”

      “Sir! Enemy’s breached the Brighton router! We’re deploying a hotfix, but two of our DevOps lads are down - tripped over a mains plug while yanking the servers!”

      It’s IT Crowd with a defence budget. A nation clinging to the fantasy that underpaid junior analysts can hold the line while senior brass draft press releases about innovation.

      1. druck Silver badge

        I was thinking more like Dad's Army with wooden keyboards.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          I was thinking more like Dad's Army with wooden keyboards.

          "Blackadder Go Forth" with Field Marshal Baldrick in command of the Western Front.

          Come to think of it I am not sure his cunning plans would have been any worse.

    2. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

      I suspect you misunderstand the purpose of the unit. Of course the announcement is full of buzzwords and isn't exactly an exercise in clarity. Plus the MoD don't exactly like to tell people what they're up to at the best of times.

      However I think this is an attempt to merge work in the areas of communications, electronic warfare (hence stuff about the electromagnetic space) and computer security cyber-defence / attack.

      Look up the old Israeli military operation "Outside the Box" - great name by the way. This was to destroy Syria's nuclear research reactore before it could be fuelled up - because Israel didn't want them to develop nuclear weapons. In the same way they destroyed Saddam Hussein's french-built reactor back in 1981. The interesting point is that Syria's air defence network switched itself off, just before the attack. I think this was before Israel had got stealth fighters - but they've got plenty of electronic warfare capabilities - so they could have done the raid and just jammed or suppressed Syria's radars. But they didn't - they did something sneaky to switch the whole air defence network off. Was this a sneaky cyber-attack - some special forces with explosives taking out the power supplies or an inside job? I've not seen an answer to that question.

      But clearly this whole area is getting increasingly important. There are now many weapons systems where you can fire a missile from one asset which is targetted, or sometimes even directly controlled, by another. F-35 can do radar networking, where the raw data from the radars of several planes can all share each other's raw data, in order to build a much more accurate picture than one plane could do alone. In similar ways to astronomers using arrays of sensors over a large area to get higher resolution. This also makes the radars more resistant to jamming. But with the downside that you've now networked your planes, which makes them more susceptible to detection and jamming of their network.

      The MoD have also just announced that their next generation air defence ships (due sometime in the mid to late 2030s) are going to be a system-of-systems. Where the ship has got backup barges to carry extra missiles for them, but also can share it's sensors with the other ships, drones, satellites and aircraft around it. There are also several countries and alliances looking at constellations of low orbit satellites specifically to track tactical missle launches - so that air defences can be activated in time to deal with them - given this tech is proliferating alarmingly. Up until a couple of years ago there'd only be a couple of ballistic missile attacks on ships, and none successful, the Houthis have been lobbing a couple a week - plus various cheap and medium priced drones and anti-ship cruise miissiles. Plus trying to defend Ukraine from Russian missile and drone attacks has been difficult. As part of this system they announced they were going to invest in networked sensing and targetting now. This fits with a lot of our spiral development, that looks to actually be working quite well. You design capabilities now with room for future growth or the possibility of repurposing - and then you keep researching and designing these new capabilities while getting the benefit of having a less shiny version to use right now. Better, once the new system works, you've already got the manufacturing capacity to go straight into building the new shiny, and may even be able to upgrade your existing kit to the new standards.

      All this networked weaponry is incredibly vulnerable to having its networks and comms attacked. As well as being incredibly useful. So not only will you want to protect yours, you'lll also want to deny theirs to the enemy.

      This actually looks to be joined-up thinking from the MoD. I don't say they won't fuck it up, but what they're doing makes actual sense.

  4. tiggity Silver badge

    Maybe the traditional military IT route?

    I know plenty of people working in IT who got funded through their degree by the army, with payback that they then worked for the army for a few years before being able to leave for private sector jobs.

    Pros - (assuming you are not from a wealthy background) IT related studies without building up masses of debt.

    Cons - a few years then working for army before you can look elsewhere for work.

    And maybe develop their own training, no need for a degree if the training & skills obtained are good enough that the people would be welcome in private sector IT security roles once their compulsory military work payback stint was over

    1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      Re: Maybe the traditional military IT route?

      Most UK universities today aren’t citadels of cutting-edge tech education - they’re profit-driven degree mills, selling hollow credentials to wealthy international students, while domestic students rack up debt for lectures that boil down to a bored academic reading off a PowerPoint copy-pasted from some Udemy course written by an underpaid freelancer.

      The myth of “British educational excellence” is just that - a myth. Outside a shrinking handful of elite institutions reserved for the already-privileged, the system has largely abandoned serious, deep teaching in favour of credential production and international cashflow.

      So yes, maybe the military should skip the university middleman - at least then recruits might actually get relevant, targeted training instead of a £50,000 bill for three years of outdated theory, broken lab equipment, and lecturers who haven’t touched industry work in decades.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Maybe the traditional military IT route?

      I know an A&E consultant who took the same forces route and she knows of many others. Get your Medical Degree and specialism for free, then work for the Force for a few years (while they keep you very safe away from the front line as you are a valuable resource), and then walk straight into A&E consultant position.

      My (just qualified as a GP) daughter, who went the tradition route, had £86,000 of student debt!

      1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

        Re: Maybe the traditional military IT route?

        No idea if the British military does it, but the US military will pay off that debt in exchange for a few years of service - and a doctor would go in as an officer. It might be something for your daughter to look into, exchange a few years service as an officer for a wiped debt.

  5. hammarbtyp

    I thought Fatima had it covered?

    I have they tried canvassing the Royal ballet

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54505841

  6. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Billion

    The £1 billion “Cyber and Electromagnetic Command” - a glittering monument to Britain’s enduring belief that you can buy 21st-century supremacy with 20th-century salaries and 19th-century bureaucracy.

    We’re meant to imagine elite digital operatives, cutting through enemy networks at lightning speed. But the reality? £40k base, the kind of recruitment pool where “right skills” often means “able to reboot a router without crying,” and leadership that thinks AI is a budget line item, not an existential challenge.

    It’s a procurement fantasy - layers of PowerPoint, committee jargon, and inflated announcements masking the simple truth: you don’t win digital wars by stapling together half-trained staff under legacy institutions, no matter how many times you reference Ukraine or slap “innovation” into a speech.

    Picture it now: billion-pound drones, powered by software specced by white papers, rushed by usual suspects contractors, and implemented by whichever overworked analyst survived the latest talent exodus to Google. Welcome to Boriswave defence: an aesthetic of modernity, a core of managerial decay.

    1. Roj Blake Silver badge

      Re: Billion

      19th-century British government bureaucracy got stuff done.

      1. collinsl Silver badge

        Re: Billion

        Much slower than today and much less stuff got done. What tended to happen was that something would be approved by Parliament or by Ministers and then a private company would be contracted to do it, similarly to today.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Refreshing

    It’s refreshing to see that the UK is concerned about cybersecurity.

    Unfortunately the exact opposite is happening on this side of the pond.

    1. Andy The Hat Silver badge

      Re: Refreshing

      Here's a load of money Officer, go do AI and cybersecurity stuff. If we reduce the military budget and get rid of most of it we'll be able to spend money protecting the systems we haven't bought ...

      Don't get blinded by the emporer's clothes - Orange talks crap, Starmer speaks in parseltongue

    2. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      Re: Refreshing

      You have Russian asset as a president and pretend like nothing is happening, while he destroys whatever he can land his cheeto paws on.

  8. Mickey Porkpies

    Wrong Pool

    Nah wrong pool peeps who are in the Military think differently you need Neuro Diverse lateral thinkers. GCHQ learnt this why is the MOD not only behind the curve but rambling down the wrong road. Great Ideas poorly executed.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Wrong Pool

      Speaking as a civil servant*, I'd say a good one in three of my colleagues are somewhere on the spectrum, and in the teams that do economics, data analysis or IT it's over half. I'm pretty sure that the people running this new department/command will easily have enough sense to work out that they're being allowed to pay chicken feed for high skill roles, so they'll need to find that special kind of obsessive who will deliver great results for said chickenfeed.

      * In a dull department, not anything tech or defence related.

  9. chrisstjohn

    Perhaps the MOD could learn from other successful Cyber Defence outfits. Did Ukraine spend £1bn on standing up a Cyber Squadron? Does Russia assemble groups of hackers and give them funny names?

    No. Small motivated self-organising groups can achieve incredible (or awful, depending on your point of view) results. I'd say you could put together a decent outfit for £1m/year. 9 out of 10 would fail, 1 out of 10 would succeed (that's the start-up way). So you get prodigious results for £10m/year. Ask any Venture Capitalist.

    All this talk of locations and reporting structures smacks of a lack of comprehension of how innovation works.

    1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

      Actually, yes, both Russia and Ukraine do assemble groups with funny names.

      And no, you can't put together a small team of a few people with 50p and some buttons for budget if you're trying to do complicated stuff.

      Sure the Ukrainians have done amazing things with MacGyvering and whatever the Ukrainian equivalent is of men in sheds. And this has enabled them to fight a defensive war very effectively. But when they needed to put it all together for a major offensive in 2023 they didn't have the organisational capacity to do what they needed to do. Because doing millitary things at scale while being opposed is fucking difficult - and usually horrifically expensive.

      Russia, who thought they had the budget, organisational skills and doctrine to pull of large scale combined arms warfare deep behind enemy lines found they couldn't do it either. Nor were they able to coordinate their vast electronic warfare assets with the rest of their force - because again you just can't do this stuff with small teams and hope. You have to develop the skills and equipment, then work out an effective doctrine to use them, then train to effectively use those skills and equipment in realistic scenarios with other of your forces and then - after many years and much time and money - you might have useful and effective military units.

      Obviously some stuff can be done with start-up type setups. Rapid drone development for example. But even there, being a start-up is no good, if you've got the best drone in the world but can only make 50 of them in your shed. So even there you need to have access to mass manufacturing, and then you need the resources to train other people to use and maintain them. And doctrine is just as important as kit, you need to work out what you want kit for, then work out how to effectively use it. Then train others to do it. Then rinse and repeat when the next development cycle hits. All this needs a large military bureaucracy to run it. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

      1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

        Eternal optimism bias

        Russia, who thought they had the budget, organisational skills and doctrine to pull of large scale combined arms warfare deep behind enemy lines found they couldn't do it either. Nor were they able to coordinate their vast electronic warfare assets with the rest of their force - because again you just can't do this stuff with small teams and hope...

        ...Obviously some stuff can be done with start-up type setups. Rapid drone development for example.

        Except of course Russia has been doing this, has adapted, and is currently winning. Ukraine started out following NATO doctrine, but discovered that was pretty ineffective. See for example the much hyped Spring/Summer offensive-

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortifications_of_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#2023_Ukrainian_counteroffensive

        Former Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhny, responsible for the counteroffensive, highlighted the problem of minefields with high density, which slowed the advance and enabled the enemy to concentrate fire on armored vehicles. Critics argue that Ukraine's strategy of dividing forces across multiple fronts diluted its impact. The flat, open landscapes of the southern front left Ukrainian forces exposed to artillery and air attacks, while urban areas were fortified to channel and disrupt Ukrainian movements. Additionally, Ukraine's military lacked certain capabilities like a contingent of modern fighter aircraft, which made breakthroughs more difficult.

        Ukraine tried a combined arms offensive with an arm missing due to lack of any air superiority, which resulted in the Robotyne mechanized graveyard. It did much the same thing with it's Kursk offensive, with much the same result. But Zaluzhy and other Ukrainian commanders criticised NATO doctrine, and often reverted to Soviet-style tactics instead. You're also gravely mistaken about Russia's EW capabiltiies which rapidly rendered a lot of our 'smart' weapons ineffective due to things like GPS jamming and spoofing. Russia's also been rapidly developing and enhancing their drones to make them more capable, same with (probably) adding laser guidance to missiles like Iskanders.

        And Russia is proving itself very effective using 'small teams and hope'. Plus things like cheap motorbikes that are allowing small teams to probe and exploit Ukraine's defences because they're faster and harder to spot & destroy than IFVs.. Which is interesting because cheap dirt bikes are taking on the traditional role of cavalry scouts and hussars. But there are also a lot of other historical parallels, like people who don't understand and underestimate their opponents tend to find themselves on the losing side of history..

        1. Casca Silver badge

          Re: Eternal optimism bias

          And you keep sucking up to russia...

  10. trevorde Silver badge

    What happened next

    * contract awarded to IBM

    * IBM employs 'early professional hires'

    * most of work is offshored

    * remainder of work done by Watson/AI

    * delivered system is late, over budget & completely non-functional

    * immediately hacked by Russia, China & North Korea

    * hackers find nothing of value

    * 'early professional hires' are now dinobabies & made redundant

    * Parliamentary review recommends replacing with Oracle

  11. rgjnk Silver badge
    Devil

    Yeah right

    As a (slightly) informed opinion of how it will be:

    - They've got a lot of integration and innovation type stuff promised on the basis of 'how hard can it be?' with no prospect of it actually happening for various technical reasons. The people directly involved don't know what they're asking for and/or have no ability to deliver it. Wiser minds will take funding to deliver the external technical reports about how it either can't be done, or can be done if given £££££.

    - A lot of chancers will pile in offering various solutions, especially AI ones, but their abilities will mostly end at talking a good game rather than actually delivering. Shiny demos will be provided that have nothing underneath beyond smoke & mirrors.

    - Real funding won't match the promises and, while significant, will be inadequate to deliver what's promised. Early days will be relatively cash rich, rapidly heading towards a shoestring setup a few months in.

    - A management structure and a lot of assigned staff *will* happen as bodies are easy to find even if qualified ones delivering useful output is a bit trickier. Usual well known top heavy organisation patterns will be applied, and metrics achieved that somehow don't involve anything real being delivered. This may start out as a big Potemkin setup to look impressive, that rapidly shrinks as interest & funds dissipate.

    This is not the first or last time someone will be setting up something (nominally) technical and innovative using taxpayer funds, new staff, a shiny facility and zero prospect of achieving the headline goals. The most anyone can hope for is to get close enough that some of the funds flow their way while it lasts.

  12. Tron Silver badge

    That's not the lesson to learn.

    Ukraine should have been quietly vanishing members of the Russian government and Putin's enablers from Day 1. I think they managed a couple of messy ones in 3+ years. The West has forgotten how to win wars. So just go play cyber games instead.

    Infrastructure and intranets should not touch the public internet. That is the only thing that will keep them safe. Forget the Cloud, subscription SaaS and AI scams, designed to make you financially dependent upon tech companies. But then if governments actually gave a toss about security they would have run with a dedicated, stable Linux years ago and forked their own software in house, instead of feeding public money to parasites for crapware.

    1. collinsl Silver badge

      Re: That's not the lesson to learn.

      You try assassinating people surrounded by competent security deep inside enemy lines. See how easy it is then.

  13. bernmeister
    Facepalm

    The wrong trousers Grommet

    They are going to recruit the wrong people. I did a GCHQ recruitment interveiw and the test revolved around scheduling a bus timetable. My ability to code and decode had no impact. I went all the way to Cheltenham and back paid by the government and felt that I was not the one that lost out.

    1. druck Silver badge

      Re: The wrong trousers Grommet

      It was pretty much the same back in the late 80s when I tried to knock them up for some sponsorship for my degree course. Managed to get through a whole hour and a half of interview at Oakley before finding out they only considered a very particular type of engineering degree, and weren't willing to show any flexibility. But other doors eventually opened.

    2. Jellied Eel Silver badge

      Re: The wrong trousers Grommet

      They are going to recruit the wrong people. I did a GCHQ recruitment interveiw and the test revolved around scheduling a bus timetable. My ability to code and decode had no impact.

      That's because they're aptitude tests to look for the right kind of thinking. Ability to code can be pretty much a given, or taught.. But what to code is the question. So thinking around all the issues and implications of creating a bus time table, then once you've come up with a solution and specification, implementing that in code is something any competent developer should be able to achieve.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The wrong trousers Grommet

      "GCHQ recruitment interveiw and the test revolved around scheduling a bus timetable."

      "I went all the way to Cheltenham and back paid by the government."

      The way I read that was that if you could bus it to Cheltenham, GCHQ would pay your fare and you were in. ;)

      I wasn't clear where Cheltenham was and confused it with Tony Hancock's East Cheam but looks like it's out in the boondocks.

      I think the press office muffed their release which emended is slightly more credible:

      "The military are looking to recruit grunts to do a lot of the actual human work."

  14. J.G.Harston Silver badge
    FAIL

    As I always say when such announcements are given: where are the job adverts? I *NEVER* see any of the much-vaunted additional X,Y,Z announced by any flavour of government actually advertised anywhere.

  15. pavlov

    I remember the stories of links between Corsham and Rudloe Manor (and other tunnels) and "operation blue book" and UFOs....

    Its clearly the Supreme Headquaters Alien Defence Organisation...

    1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      Re: Supreme Headquaters[sic] Alien Defence Organisation...

      pavlov, grüß dich,

      Is it delusional to even imagine there is any possibility of organised defence against alienated attacks and/or aliens, pavlov, and therefore is such better considered and recognised as an alien treat and best classified as a catastrophic exploitable vulnerability and certifiable existential threat against ........ well, if not necessarily all humanity then does one have to conclude the targets will logically be oppressive and threatening leaderships of bellicose humanity?

      And would that be an Adaptable Intervention presenting and mentoring and monitoring a fundamental change down on Earth to be graciously and gratefully welcomed rather than vaingloriously opposed and unsuccessfully denied the current reality for entertainment and global status quo support ..... Universal AIdDevelopment and Creative Digital Native Assistance?

      Choose the wrong fork[s] of travel on that road and the rocks that appear on the way will be in the way and both deadly and unavoidable in order to provide neither escape nor safe and secure return to any former choice position/default base situation.

      One can only hope readily available, for such things are hardly ever confirmed or denied, that Cyber and Electromagnetic Commanders have an accurate future roadmap ..... and Per Ardua ad Astra Beta MetaData Flight Directors for ACTive Master Pilot Conversion Units*.

      "Ways of warfare are rapidly changing – with the UK facing daily cyber-attacks on this new frontline," Healey said in a statement.

      No shit, Sherlock ....... but there's no sign of systems changing and that is a fatal mistake for established systems being made.

      * ..... Advanced CyberIntelAIgent Threat/Treat Master Pilot Conversion Units.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Supreme Headquaters Alien Defence Organisation...

      So we're completely stuffed then?

      The couture and tailoring not too bad so we will go out in style. :)

      Fascinatingly, Sylvia Anderson's UFO costume design always seemed retro without any obvious past it was "retrospective."

      1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

        Re: Supreme Headquaters Alien Defence Organisation...

        So we're completely stuffed then? .... Anonymous Coward

        Yes, it presently most very likely is so, AC with the current out of shape SHAPEd organisations imagining existing strategic defence reviews will deliver any necessarily radical and fundamental change to their dire and perilous situations just as another nail for hammering into their failed command and control coffins.

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