Encryption backdoor debate 'done and dusted,' former White House tech advisor says In the wake of the Salt Typhoon attacks, which lawmakers and privacy advocates alike have called the worst telecoms security breach in America's history, US government agencies have reversed course on encryption. After decades of advocating against using this type of secure messaging, "encryption is your friend," Jeff Greene, …
The Patrician to Captain Vimes, in Guards! Guards!: "I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people," said the man. "You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides."
In the UK, the general population are considered to be unwashed serfs by the establishment. .... VoiceofTruth
An arrogant consideration which leads surely enough to one’s own rapidly escalating downfall and ignominious demise, VoiceofTruth. Some would advise let it be, don’t rock the boat, continue to seed and feed them their historical and nonsensical hysterical needs.
An arrogant consideration which leads surely enough to one’s own rapidly escalating downfall and ignominious demise, VoiceofTruth. ..... VoiceofTruth
Sincerest apologies to Voiceoftruth should anyone have disliked and mistaken that arrogant consideration cited above to be VoiceofTruth’s rather than realising it referenced a very useful catastrophic exploitable and exportable vulnerability endemic in the establishment and similarly opinionated operations and wannabe false fake it to you make it Parliamentary democracy type charades ....... which always results in Unusual Unofficial Undergrounds that are simply able to stealthily enable relatively anonymous and practically autonomous AIDevelopment and Remote Spooky Distant Assistants for the protection and servering of Overwhelming Resource Traffic for Super Creative Official Opposition Resistance.
Accept and be grateful such is intelligently designed benign whenever realised and engaged as a life long friend for if ever treated as an enemy and battled against as a fiendishly fielded foe is both the fate and destiny of such humanity dire and existentially threatened in extremis.
I am unsure whether the downvotes are because some have taken an objection to you and will downvote anything you post, or whether it is simply that your posts are difficult to understand ;) .... nobody who matters
A downvote without explanatory feedback, nobody who matters, is akin to vapourware which hosts the shattered dreams of lost opportunities, which is a crying shame whenever evidently abundant.
I cannot disagree though that complex matters are rarely simple to understand, especially whenever one may know only far too little about a lot of what is difficult to understand and accept be more likely honestly true than not.
Fortunately ... nowadays ... only a few need to know and understand what is really happening in order for difficult and different things to be made to happen.
The posts are only lightly encrypted, and decoding just takes a bit of patience.I tend to like the occasional puzzle :). ... Anonymous Coward
Well spotted and understood, AC, .... ancient trusty secrets and methods of encryption for the wretched curse of dark and dirty deeds done dirt cheap are broken and outed, trumped and proven dangerously unreliable and susceptible to catastrophic failures employing and exploiting both current and future opportunities presented by SCADA vulnerabilities and 0days delivering the targeting and exercise and enjoyment of the otherworldly surreal benefits and almighty overwhelming rewards available in the vast virgin rich fields of novel and noble pornographic steganography and quantum communication for command and control leverage in places with spaces where a this can be a that and something else quite different and together something else quite separate and totally different again ...... ad infinitum ...... as the future progresses and produces quite extraordinary but simply super natural universal evolutionary change/Quantum IntelAIgent Leaps/Big Bangs/the Madness and Mayhem in CHAOS [Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems] ‽ .
And your post, AC, is worthy of an upvote .... for being informative and helpful. Bravo.
The last I heard, British Conservatives were still all over the idea that 'only people with something to hide should want encryption'.
Of course, as with the Sir Pterry quote above, whilst this is actually true it is built around the easy to sell misconception that the only people with anything to hide are *bad* people.
My observation, after so many years of empiric data collection, is that many times, those who go into lawyering do so, because their head is a little too soft for mathematics and science, but they still want to be able to piss on the plebes from an ivory tower someplace. And bless them, but they do. Copiously.
"Just this week, CISA published formal guidance [PDF] on how to keep Chinese government spies off mobile devices".
Yeah. Try passing that on to Angela Merkel.
"threat actors"
Where does the USA get the front to say this? The gall of the biggest snooper and interceptor on the planet.
My heart bleeds for those poor innocent American politicians who now know what it feels like to be snooped upon.
The groups that pushed for backdoor encryption- who allowed foreign actors to break in despite warning that they would- should be considered treasonous. It was deliberately harming the citizens, businesses, and government of their own countries.
All brought in with fear mongering, claiming every email and website held paedophiles who'd harm our kids.
These people should be made to take responsibility.
Tis always this way, politicians are happy to impose stupid things against others as a means to be seen to be doing something against the outrage du jour, but get very upset when it comes back to bite them.
Just like the experts told them. But they don't listen to experts any more...
So: the experts have been proven right -- what a surprise. But I doubt that the politicians will learn and start listening to experts in other fields. One set of experts that I would like them to listen to are the climate scientists, some do, most pretend to.
The USA is about to get a dictator who will shut own and ignore all experts that say inconvenient things.
One good thing about Trump in this parcular case is he's a bombastic sort of personality. And doesn't like China getting one over on the US.
The Experts he's allowed to listen to will tell him encryption=ImmigrantPedoTerrorists. We want him to ignore those experts.
It should be pretty easy to convince him to find those responsible for opening up America's communications to the CCP and give them the strongest punishment possible.
So Trump may end up being the best chance we have to get this banned and to enshrine E2EE as a right in law.
Made to take responsibility? Absolutely. Considered treasonous? Not at all. Treason is a very specific charge:
"Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."
So, implementing backdoored encryption so that law enforcement can tap anybody isn't treason, though it is a really, terribly horribly bad idea, even if the keys weren't provided to (or discoverable by) foreign countries. Providing the keys to foreign countries that are legally considered enemies of the US would be treason. (Weirdly, giving full access to an ally or neutral country wouldn't.)
Except that's actually not true. Here, read it for yourself: Mobile Communications Best Practice Guidance [cisa.gov]
In Europe intelligence agencies have always targeted their own population, not foreigners.
People who want change or criticize the government or leaders are being branded troublemakers, undesirables and traitors and slammed into jail or worse. The best thing to do would be to forbid intelligence agencies to spy on the domestic population, just like in America.
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As I said many times before, the TTL of sanity amongst these people is approx seven years, which means aggressive calls for backdoors (accompanied by the usual 'terrorists/think of the children' arguments) will surface again around 2032. After them smacking these idiots with a large fish (sorry, slipped into Monty Python mode there) and/or making them look as ridiculous as the previous morons, the time will reset - for another seven years.
Enjoy the time in between.
(and no, I don't have any idea why the cycle time for this lunacy is approx seven years - suggestions welcome).
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