back to article Uncle Sam designates more Chinese tech slingers as military collaborators

The chip wars between Washington and Beijing keep grinding on with more than a dozen Chinese tech companies now being added to a list of entities claimed by the Department of Defense (DoD) to be working for the military. The update adds more than a dozen technology companies, including memory chip manufacturer Yangtze Memory …

  1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    I'm only a humble engineer ... but....

    I'm having a little difficulty with the logic of:

    You can't supply to company A in China because they have links to the evil mustache-twirling commie hoards

    You can however sell to company B (not evil mustache-twirling commie hoards) in China, because obviously they wouldn't pass on the parts to company A

    But if company A are evil mustache-twirling commie hoards = wouldn't they just take the parts from company B anyway ? It sounds like the sort of thing evil mustache-twirling commie hoards would do !

    1. martinusher Silver badge

      Re: I'm only a humble engineer ... but....

      As hinted in the article its really about 'disrupting the competition (real or imagined)'. The whole Commie, PLA or whatever thing is just for the 'rubes. The reality is that Gina Raimondo, our public face of sanctions, seems to be utterly clueless about technology so her department is just thrashing around producing lots of paper on their (probably made in China) laser printers driven by their (also probably made in China) computers. A typical out-of-control bureaucrat, the sort that readily makes it onto the "Swampwatch" segment of the news programs.

      I daresay the Chinese find this inconvenient but it doesn't seem to have slowed them down much. I'de rather we invested the time and energy in trying to speed us up and not by opening one or two overpriced facilities at taxpayer expense, I want to see ongoing investment in people, education and infrastructure and a tax regime that would 'encourage' this. Anathema to our financial types so I daresay we'll just carry on carrying on.

      BTW -- its 'hordes'.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: I'm only a humble engineer ... but....

        That can't be true because the USA is a global capitalist democracy. It would only interfere in the sacred free market if vital national security were at stake

        1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge
          Facepalm

          Re: I'm only a humble engineer ... but....

          :-)BTW -- it's ‘demonocracy’.

          Apologies, Yet Another Anonymous coward, if your post was laced with sarcasm which I failed to recognise.

  2. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

    Why doesnt uncle sam jail the traitors who built up china in the first place ?

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Not just China, exporting anything risks empowering economic rivals.

      Suppose foreigners used those F150s and Boeings to revitalise their domestic industry ?

      Ban all exports now !

      1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

        No talking about 1950s planes im talkig about real factories making real electronics and more which wouldnt be there if it wasnt for American CEOs.

  3. Mark Exclamation

    Let's face reality; ALL tech companies in China are working for their government, and therefore the Chinese military. I'm not sure why there are any exceptions.

    1. Version 1.0 Silver badge

      A quick edit "ALL tech companies in America are working for their profits, there are no exceptions."

      But when you look at the world, not just individual counties, America and China are related - more than 20,000 years ago Chinese people appear to have walked into America, becoming the first humans to live in the Americas after arrived on foot via a temporary land bridge in the North West. These days politics is seen as separating the two countries but F.U.P.C. ...

      D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F

  4. Omnipresent Bronze badge

    Give them a reason.

    All you need to do is give America something to rally against. A cause. Your ass will be so sore you won't be able to walk strait again.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      @Omnipresent - Re: Give them a reason.

      Looks like America seems to show some early signs of erectile dysfunction since China prefers to use its own currency instead of the mighty dollar.

    2. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

      Re: Give them a reason.

      So how come there are so many homeless and poor people in America compared to say NZ or AU ?

      1. Medixstiff

        Re: Give them a reason.

        What do you expect with 332,000,000 versus 25,000,000 people in the US versus Aus?

        That being said, in Wait Awhile we have plenty of homeless, for how mineral rich we are, quite a few governments etc. have to quote the Yanks "screwed the pooch" however a royal commission as we say will do nothing if no-one is charged and does prison time and with the FOMO BS that the real estate industry has pushed for the last 2 decades, making an example out of some of them and brokers will be the only thing that can help make the industry pull it's head in.

        1. CowHorseFrog Silver badge

          Re: Give them a reason.

          medi: What do you expect with 332,000,000 versus 25,000,000 people in the US versus Aus?

          That being said, in Wait Awhile we have plenty of homeless, for how mineral rich we are, quite a few governments etc

          cow: Im not denying there are homeless people, im simply saying you dont even have to try to find homeless people in good old USA, as compared to AUS. Get on street view and drive around Sydney or Canberra, you will really have to look. hard for a long time, as comapred to say San Francisco, NY or DC.

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