back to article £2B in UK taxpayer cash later, and still no Emergency Services Network

By the end of this month, the UK Home Office will have spent just under £2 billion ($2.4 billion) on a new critical communications network for the country's police, fire and ambulance services – with nothing to show for it, according to a report by the National Audit Office (NAO). Even worse, the multi-year project has fallen …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Better never than late

    Worked for a company which was integrating ESN into their main product, using functionality provided by Motorola. Whilst our code was beautiful, elegant and well tested, it ultimately came down to Motorola holding up their end of the deal. Unfortunately, Motorola's functionality was the most unreliable and inconsistent SAAS I have ever encountered in 30 yrs of professional development. It is truly the worst example of SAAS I have ever had to deal with.

    To make matters worse, over the course of about 6 months, most of the project team realised they were being underpaid and left for pastures new, including myself. Last I heard, the company were having some redundancies to try and get the project back on schedule.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Better never than late

      In the same way that syphilis isn't "better late than never", neither is ESN as it's been planned.

      Should have been brought in alongside tetra, never as a one stop "replacement" with all the features that have ever been developed.

    2. CowHorseFrog

      Re: Better never than late

      The cause of this is of course the leadership the clueless morons that are allowed to run any company or department. My dog could do a better job than 99% of them for half the money.

      1. teebie

        Re: Better never than late

        Half?

        Greedy dog, go to your bed.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It should never have been planned as it was.

    It should never have been a "big switch", it should always have been "data first", then when that's running everything else can be built on top of it.

    That was clear to those working in the area back in 2015

    1. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

      Re: It should never have been planned as it was.

      Big bang switch over/roll outs are inherently dangerous and should be avoided.

      And the bigger the project, the bigger the bang is going to be when it goes wrong. (Because it will...)

      1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
        Trollface

        Yeah but, the director's cousin third removed needed an entry on his CV . . .

  3. Wellyboot Silver badge

    hopeless

    We're now 5 years past the end point of a 5 year design & implement project. Airwave looks set to out do the decade long NHS IT fubar that spaffed about £6Bn.

    Duplicating the military tactical radio net with a few modifications to suit the slightly different operating environment* should have been a serious option.

    * some secret squirrel stuff gets changed, base station network will be fixed and higher powered.

    1. Commswonk

      Re: hopeless

      Duplicating the military tactical radio net...

      Which net would that be then? The Army uses TETRA (Airwave) for Aid to the Civil Power, before which it had MOULD, which was removed some years ago.

      What other net did you have in mind?

      1. Roland6 Silver badge

        Re: hopeless

        > What other net did you have in mind?

        Well, I had largely forgotten the research project I had a small interaction with in the 1980s, until this recent ElReg article

        https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/07/us_air_force_awards_755m/

        I think a MANET is probably a better upgrade to Tetra than commercial 4G…

    2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: hopeless

      Is that still the one that burns soldiers, needs a strengthened chassis to carry, has a wrist mounted unit that you need to be the terminator to lift and they never made enough batteries for ?

  4. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    IR35 changes

    They keep shooting government in the foot since 2017

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: IR35 changes

      2017? Try 1999.

      Youngsters today, mumble, mumble...

      1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

        Re: IR35 changes

        IR35 changed in 2017 is a completely different beast.

    2. Franco Silver badge

      Re: IR35 changes

      Not disputing IR35 doesn't help, but ESN was a complete charlie-foxtrot long before that.

      It's been pointed out to the powers that be (often!) that large parts of the UK are rural and hilly and barely have a 2G signal a lot of the time, never mind 4G and the level of infrastructure required just to sort that could not be delivered in the project time frame.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Good day?

    British taxpayers who are having a good day and want it ruined can download the report here.

    Good day?

    Think so?

    British taxpayers who voted Labour and Remain surely did not expect much better anything else from the present government.

    And they haven't had a good day in a great many years.

    The only thing British taxpayers have seen is the UK go to.the.dogs.

    Whilst being litterally sold by the pound, including seats at the House.

    A really sad, sad state of affairs of which only they are to blame.

    .

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: voted Labour and Remain

      Not everyone who has voted Tory also voted 'Leave'. Only the loony far right were even mildly enthusiastic about BREXIT and those donkeys were led by two liars (Boris and Farage) who are both rich enough to survive outside the EU without even a thought..

      Plenty of us are still of the opinion that BREXIT was about the worst thing we could have chosen to do other then shoot ourselves dead.

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: voted Labour and Remain

        Not everyone who has voted Tory also voted 'Leave'.

        Exactly! So many ardent brexiteers and remainers seem to forget the Brexit campaign was cross party with leavers and remainers on BOTH sides. Neither party has yet got over the splits and schisms that caused.

        1. codejunky Silver badge

          Re: voted Labour and Remain

          @John Brown (no body)

          "So many ardent brexiteers and remainers seem to forget the Brexit campaign was cross party with leavers and remainers on BOTH sides"

          Well said. May this eventually sink in for people both remain and brexit.

          1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

            Re: voted Labour and Remain

            I thought Labour consistently fought a bitter campaign with Labour over Brexit?

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: voted Labour and Remain

          "Brexit campaign was cross party with leavers and remainers on BOTH sides."

          Is this a thinly veiled pop at Jeremy Corbyn ?

          If so, carry on Comrade!

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Re: voted Labour and Remain

            No, it's a completely unveiled pop at the party faithfuls of both sides who are trying to re-write history. I see at least two people downvoted my comment, so can only assume they are both people who trying to do exactly that. :-)

      2. Binraider Silver badge

        Re: voted Labour and Remain

        True, but Tory remainers have been sidelined, ostracised or just plain removed at most opportunities by the ERG.

        The drift of the party to the right is blatantly obvious to all, and we should be terrified of that drift turning into something much, much nastier.

        1. cyberdemon Silver badge
          Devil

          Re: voted Labour and Remain

          I think Gary Lineker has pointed out exactly where this Tory government is drifting towards, TBH.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: voted Labour and Remain

            He should stick to football, at least he seems to have some clue about that.

            1. Lazlo Woodbine

              Re: voted Labour and Remain

              If everyone only commented about their immediate area of business, the world would be a truely awful place.

              Or is it only people you disagree with who shouldn't comment about politics, and area of life that affects far more people on a daily basis than football ever will.

            2. GioCiampa

              Re: voted Labour and Remain

              "He should stick to football, at least he seems to have some clue about that."

              Sue-Ellen... is that you?

          2. LybsterRoy Silver badge

            Re: voted Labour and Remain

            He sure has. Shame he didn't point out that he housed ONE migrant for a few days who wrote him a beautiful letter of thanks.

            I know I'm going to get downvoted big time for this but maybe, just maybe, some of us would have sympathy for genuine refugees but lack it for economic migrants.

        2. codejunky Silver badge

          Re: voted Labour and Remain

          @Binraider

          "True, but Tory remainers have been sidelined"

          Sounds like the right thing really. We voted brexit, implemented brexit surely remainers should be less involved in aspects involving brexit unless they are able to be impartial and carry out their duties (hard in a polarized topic). Note how brexiters were sidelined while in the EU and probably would have been as MEP's if people didnt get to vote for them.

          "The drift of the party to the right is blatantly obvious to all"

          The leap to the left was obvious and intentional. Drifting back towards the right doesnt seem to be an issue, being still so far left is a bit of an issue for people wanting a centre right party to run the country.

          "and we should be terrified of that drift turning into something much, much nastier."

          Unfortunately while people focus on a nasty right they forget about a nasty left. One imposing policy to make us all worse off while trying to control our lives.

          1. cyberdemon Silver badge
            Flame

            Re: voted Labour and Remain

            > We voted brexit

            Is that the `Royal "We"`? Cos I bloody well didn't, and the country as a whole could hardly have been more undecided on that "non-binding referendum" if it had tried. And if it were 48/52 the other way round, i'm sure you'd be crying for another referendum, rather than calling it undemocratic to demand a sizeable majority to close the matter.

            Had the referendum been a legally binding one, then it's very likely that many of the leave campaign would have gone to jail for all the lies and dirty tricks, such as those by Dominic Cummings, Alex Lebedev and Cambridge Analytica..

            The only beneficiaries of Brexit are Russia, China and a few rich Tories with their snouts in the UKCA trough.

            1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

              Re: voted Labour and Remain

              >The only beneficiaries of Brexit are Russia, China and a few rich Tories with their snouts in the UKCA trough.

              And the happy fish.

              I think a few european politicians might be breathing a sigh of relief that they don't have to deal with the [F/G/Bel/It]-exit annoyances in their own countries anymore

            2. NeilPost Silver badge

              Re: voted Labour and Remain

              Let’s call it what but was .. and remains today. Proroguing Parliament, braking the law, breaking international treaties etc .. spot on the money.

              https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/misconduct-public-office

              Furriners, Shamina Begum, Migrants, NI Protocol, EU Retained Law Bill, Environmental Pollution (looking at you water companies), ClimTe Chances obligations, Covid Fast Lane, Lobbying, Palantir in the NHS ……

              1. LybsterRoy Silver badge

                Re: voted Labour and Remain

                Don't suppose you can post an explanation of your post?

                1. codejunky Silver badge

                  Re: voted Labour and Remain

                  @LybsterRoy

                  Not one of the responses contain an explanation.

          2. NeilPost Silver badge

            Re: voted Labour and Remain

            Brexit, implemented by Brexiteers.

            Going swimmingly isn’t it !!!

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: voted Labour and Remain

              Alas Brexit was not implemented by Brexiteers, but rather by the Civil Service.

              Even if the majority of them weren’t opposed to it (showing our “democracy “ in action), you don’t really expect them to have done it effectively do you?

              HS2, Ajax procurement, Universal Credit etc etc

        3. NeilPost Silver badge

          Re: voted Labour and Remain

          What a trans-Atlantic merger with the GOP?

        4. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

          Re: voted Labour and Remain

          removed at most opportunities by the ERG

          One Brexit had become the orthodox cant of the Tories, anyone of a different opinion either shut up or left. I respect those who left a lot more than those who carried on parrotting a line that they obviously disagreed with.

          That lure of potential ministerial seats must be *very* powerful!

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: voted Labour and Remain

        If you voted leave or tory, you need to apologise and pay a higher rate of tax to cover the damage you've cased. If you voted both, you need to surrender all assets for redistribution to those on the right side of history and have your voting rights cancelled until you can pass an exam that demonstrates empathy and basic reasoning skills.

        1. LybsterRoy Silver badge

          Re: voted Labour and Remain

          I upvoted you because I have a sneaky suspicion that many cannot recognise sarcasm. At least I hope it was sarcasm.

          1. SundogUK Silver badge

            Re: voted Labour and Remain

            It's probably a millennial, so I doubt it's sarcasm.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: voted Labour and Remain

              RWNJs don't get sarcasm either, Hmm?

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: voted Labour and Remain

            Thank you for saying, it's concerning that there might be people who genuinely agree with this.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: voted Labour and Remain

          I propose, to avoid mistakes, that people who didn't vote for Brexit drive on the right side of the road, and the others keep driving as usual.

          Things should be sorted out rather fast.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Good day?

      If you really expect voting Labour to improve this situation you're in for a big disappointment. This is a Home Office civil service cockup, and since success in the civil service is measured by how big your department and your budgets are, expecting those useless plonkers to successfully manage an engineering project is a pipe dream.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Good day?

        It is a civil service cock-up but I wonder if it's because the departments aren't actually big enough and it all gets outsourced to Big CONsultancy, Would be interesting to see where the money has gone but I don't expect to be surprised.

        1. LybsterRoy Silver badge

          Re: Good day?

          Why should a "big enough" department not outsource to consultants. After all, its not their money and it wouldn't be the department's fault if anything goes wrong.

          1. John H Woods Silver badge

            Re: Good day?

            Absolutely no reason why they shouldn't. But if they have, and they've spent £2B without anything to show for it, they've done it wrong.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Risk Transfer

            the claim time and time again is that by outsourcing all the responsibility for a project you outsource the risk as well. I've seen too many public sector contracts go like this and then watched the bills for continuing to operate legacy systems role in while ccn after ccn is required to get the replacement completed

      2. NeilPost Silver badge

        Re: Good day?

        Theresa May

        Amber Rudd

        Sajid Javid

        Priti Patel

        Suella Braverman

        Grant Shapps

        Suella Braverman

        .. are the list of Tory Home Secretarie, who ultimately lead this project.

        I don’t see any of Suella Braverman’s - or predecessor’s - rabid anti-migrant/anti-Shamina Begum rhetoric allowing any time to be spent on this.

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