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NATO officials are investigating after criminals put up some data for sale on dark forums that they claim is "classified" information stolen from European missile maker MBDA. MBDA has denied any sensitive material has been compromised and said it had refused to pay the gang a ransom, claiming the data for sale was obtained …

  1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    Mundane Espionage ?

    Nothing to worry about really, just like an overdue library book

    1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      Re: Mundane Espionage ?

      Nothing to worry about really, just like an overdue library book .... Yet Another Anonymous coward

      When more indicative of Advanced Morphing into Expanding Surreal Subversion does Houston and NATO have a real problem with no viable current solution light years removed from just Mundane Espionage ..... and that’s where all the shit is happening that is crashing capital controlled systems, both ethereal proprietary intellectual property and fiat currency based.

      Failure to embrace and engage in truly novel base control protocol changes guarantees ever more rapid systems degradation and irredeemable destruction of previously held sacred prize assets/elite executive crown jewels.

      Read those lines and weep for they tell a true tale you deny at your peril.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Mundane Espionage ?

        >Up

        ,with -

        - 'The first embrace should be to embrace Him Who gave you all that you have, and *that’s The Creator*' (sic)

      2. JCM

        Re: Mundane Espionage ?

        Are you having an epileptic seizure?

      3. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

        Supernatural Homegrown or ExtraTerrestrial Alien IntelAIgents :-) ...

        ........ for the Delivering of Feasts or Famines ‽*

        Some strange things [such as can very well be failure to embrace and engage in truly novel base control protocol changes] able to surprisingly attack and always immediately render indefensible sensitive secrets publicly known and liable to further broad bands of exploitation and/or misuse and abuse will always remain and prosper as a Persistent ACTive Cyber Threat/AI Treat in the command and control of Virtually Remote A.N.Others.

        And even as there may be those dabbling in such fields as countenance such as being future problematical, there really is nothing that you can do to change that as your current executive SCADA systems administration greater reality.

        All one can can do is prepare oneself to made aware of a vast string of novel strange changes completely beyond one's own command and control whilst pinning all hopes on incumbent legacy leaderships not failing to rise to the epic challenge and colossal opportunities presented. Some agencies already have inklings which they realise are typically and topically Great Game changing.

        “Agencies need to treat this threat [empowerment breaking into encrypted communications] seriously and recognize that the attacks may have begun,” he said.

        In addition to experimenting with new algorithms, agencies need to become crypto-agile, he said. The ability to adapt will ensure long-term protection.

        “We want to be able to change algorithms in the future without a huge headache,” he said. “And anytime we find a system that was painful to change this time around, we should make it easier in the future.” ....... https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2022/9/6/government-seeking-quantum-proof-encryption

        * a Dealer's Choice choice

    2. Clausewitz4.0
      Devil

      Re: Mundane Espionage ?

      Nothing to worry?

      Those hackers are selling data of people whose daily job is to kill for a living.

      Better to have some protection. If from local gov / mil, better.

      Schematics of NATO missiles are very interesting. And valuable.

      1. Anonymous Coward
  2. Lordrobot

    I thought Trump Declassified all these documents

    Like a Rabbi blesses Salt to be Kosher...

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: I thought Trump Declassified all these documents

      Rabbis don't bless things and salt is always kosher.

      This is more like Transubstantiation. Through the power vested in him by the ineffable electoral college. Trump was able to miraculously convert the documents into unclassified paper, while to the unbeliever they retain the same mundane physical appearance of highly sensitive national secrets.

      It's one of those mysteries of faith (like the popularity of Justin Beiber) that mankind are not meant to understand.

      1. TimMaher Silver badge
        Coat

        Re: Transubstantiation

        But what if we believe in Consubstantiation?

        Will thirty years of religious warfare breakout?

        Mine’s the black cape with the tall black hat tucked inside the hood.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Devil

    Orange is the New Black?

    With the latest discovery of empty secret folders at Mar-a-Lago, I wonder how many secrets have been sold to the black market?

    Not that Trump would ever do such a thing. Unless it increased his fortune. And helped his great friend Putin.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Orange is the New Black?

      But the empty folders show that there is nothing to investigate.

      Like the broken cage that says "Veloceraptor", do see any Veloceraptors? No - so there is nothing to worry about !

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Orange is the New Black?

        Or Abbi Normal…

  4. trindflo Bronze badge
    Big Brother

    literally phishing

    Probably the best stuff Russia has: put it on the black market, maybe fool a Western or wealthy Eastern nation into paying something for it, watch for any personnel changes or other indications you hit a nerve.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: literally phishing

      There was a story at the end of 2020 that he CIA had suddenly lost a surprising number of agents abroad.

      If so Trump should probably stay away from book depositories and there is going to be a long running conspiracy of which government agency wasn't involved in his assassination

  5. Gene Cash Silver badge

    Student loan

    Awright... how about every account that was exposed... you must forgive their loan.

    If that was the case, this stuff would be locked down harder than Fort Knox.

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