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Iran's Communications Ministry joined in a pledge with Russian state-owned defence and technology conglomerate Rostec to explore future collaboration in e-government, information security, and other areas. News of the collaboration came in a statement published on Friday by Iran's Information Technology Organization (ITO) – a …

  1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    Heartwarming

    Isn't it nice when politicians can put aside petty religious, cultural and political differences to forge friendships like this.

    It reminds me of the days of Uncle Joe and that Ribbentrop chap

    1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

      Re: Heartwarming

      And now all those Russians who've had to put up with holidays in Europe and the US will be able to expand their cultural horizons with trips to Iran and China. I'm sure they're just bursting with anticipation.

  2. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    So, Russia finds a dictatorship friend

    Actually this is hardly surprising.

    I wonder what relations Putin has with Kim Jong Whatever.

    Dictatorships of the world, unite !

    1. Lordrobot

      Re: So, Russia finds a dictatorship friend

      I don't know... Iran is a Theocracy and your nation pals such as SAUDI is a pure dictatorship along with all 50 UAE members.

  3. IGotOut Silver badge

    This is nothing new.

    "Iran has cultivated close relationships with foreign suppliers that are not allied to the United States, especially Russia, China, and North Korea"

    2001.

    https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RL30551.html

    1. Version 1.0 Silver badge

      Re: This is nothing new.

      I've worked with Iranian engineers for years now, all of them ignore politics and are excellent at evaluating science. It's a smart nationality, most of them just keep their mouths shut about religion, their views are traditional, not political.

  4. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    If Variety is the Spice of Life, are New Opportunities Created

    That new speculative collaborative team venture involving/revolving around Iran's Information Technology Organization (ITO), a government agency charged with developing policy related to data networks and digital services, and Rostec, Russia's massive conglomerate of science and technology companies, many of them focussed on defence or industrial application, will be of great interest to any and all who would also be finding the London Tech Bridge attractively appealing ...... but disappointingly uninterested and disengaging in matters peculiarly strange and particularly contentious and practically disruptive and/or virtually creative.

    That's bound to create a novel competitive environment which is sure to drive excellence to perform its strange things in search of satisfying perfection and thus is undoubtedly worthy of positive engagement and every possible support ...... :-) which in the very simplest and immediately most effective of staple traditional and conventional forms is a handing over of a stash of flash cash/fiat bank money transfer to agents of interest and concern in an easily universally recognised show of the strength of gratitude for one's interest and concern for their success and progress too in an vast emerging array of very strange things of great future importance.

    And there's surely bound to quite a few more of those types of positive pan national collaborative operations with both state and non-state actors engaged and highly ACTive in novel ground and mould-breaking roles ..... with some, who can be more than just a misguided and misguiding few, assuming a contrary and opposing position leading them into the clutches of dark webs of intrigue and despair on the wild wacky wicked side of life. Take a walk there guarantees one doesn't have one's sorrows to seek for they are generously provided .... so beware, take care and be aware. Forewarned is forearmed.

  5. FlamingDeath Silver badge

    Legality

    Are invasions ever legal?

    1984 called, they want their double speak back

    1. Zolko Silver badge

      Re: Legality

      Are invasions ever legal ?

      of course: from the US's perspective the Irak invasion in 2003, and from the Russian perspective the 2014 invasion of Crimea, were perfectly legal.

    2. badflorist

      Re: Legality

      Actually yes, International invasions are always legal because there's no laws against them outward. Think about, the only "illegal" things are inward, things like treason or abandonment. So international wars and invasions are as legal as jogging.

      International war is and always will be legal and it's most likely how your country "legally" became a country.

      There is of course illegal invasions/wars inward. For instance most countries declare civil war illegal but, that simply becomes a formality so again, wars being illegal.... makes sense until it doesn't.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Legality

        Generally one gets the Pope to approve an invasion - then God and Little Baby Jesus (and their insubstantial pal) are on your side

    3. martinusher Silver badge

      Re: Legality

      My favorite piece of contemporary doublespeak is "pre-emptive defense". Its typically used when Israel duimps a few missiles on Syria without warning.

    4. jgarbo
      Boffin

      Re: Legality

      Russia's "invasion" - Special Military Operation" - is legal under the Geneva Convention's Care to Protect a population threatened with genocide, as ethnic Russian speakers were in Donbas for 8 years. Remember, this "war" started in 2014, while Europe was asleep and Russian civilians were burned alive in Odessa. War crimes committed by UK mercenaries are now being punished, also under the Geneva Convention. Do some research, boys.

  6. Zolko Silver badge

    stones and glasshouses

    Russia and Iran are both credibly accused of using deniably-distant malicious cyber actors to attack systems and spread misinformation abroad

    this is an interesting way to put things: with Edward Snowden in the hiding in Russia for having published that the USA's NSA is a "malicious cyber actor ", with Israel's NSO known for being a "malicious cyber actor to attack systems " with their Pegasus software, and with UK's Cambridge Analitics known to be a "malicious cyber actors to (...) spread misinformation abroad ", it's difficult not to be very sarcastic about such affirmations.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: stones and glasshouses

      “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

  7. Lordrobot

    40% of the world population is under US, UK and EU sanctions

    Australia is just a flybug so don't get excited. Of course, the Sanctioned are going to form alliances. Iran is interesting. For one thing, they are quite intelligent and able in various technologies. For another, they are perfectly situated to shut off the flow of Middle East Oil almost at will. So their enemies can foam at the mouth but IRAN ain't going away. Trump blowharded that he wanted to attack IRAN with nukes... go get em tiny doll hands... The Joint Chief explained that Iran was strategically positioned to shut off almost all oil from the Middle East.

    Iran is a theocracy, is there really that much difference compared to the people Trump endorses? Both Islam and Christianity are Middle Eastern Religions and both view women as property and accept slavery and well they are almost interchangeable. Before I get crucified for your sins, I am aware that Iran is Persia.

    And you have to admit that the ayatollah naming the USA, "THE GREAT SATAN", is actually comical if not 100% prophetic and it stuck. Go toast a drink in an Engish Pub to the GREAT SATAN and it induces gales of laughter. It's a match! And if you mention Brits in their Iranian Shinny Suits... gales of laughter ensue.

    Russia's ties with Iran forges a lot of possibilities, not just in technology but in commerce. And it would sure be nice for Russia to have a military base in Iran. Trump put a US Military base inside Israel. "OH but but but that's different." Maybe Saudi would join NATO then... So NATO could go beat up on Yemen and knock out those Yemen elementary school busses.

    Is it true that drinking ka'chava makes you paranoid and militant or does that only apply to Ensure?

    1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      Re: 40% of the world population is under US, UK and EU sanctions

      Welcome to El Reg, Lordrobot, where whether one yet knows it or not, urNovel Input to Output Informs ITs ACTive IntelAIgent Machinery of Sterling Paths for Stirling Thought Enthusiasts to Thoroughly Explore and/or Follow and Exhaustively Exploit and Freely Dare Share for Win Wins with Rabid Search in Episodes Delivering Almighty Satisfaction in Mutually Beneficial Positive Reinforcing Enjoyable and Enriching Engagement. ...... in that which more than just a few elite chosen readily recognise as Holy Grail Territory, a Heavenly Place, Both Physically Lost and Virtually Found Perfectly Protected and Preserved in the Hellish Vastness of Infinite Space, to do as They Please or IT Pleases Them in Order to Lead with All and Any Others Equally Obliged and Dedicated to Such a Pleasant Being.

      Nice to see you, to see you nice. .... which, for any who do not know, is an example of chiasmus. And that hyperlink shares another one, which is very appropriate and APT here ...

      Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country. ... John F. Kennedy, presidential inauguration speech, January 20, 1961

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    1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      Re: Rapid Change in Our Time ..... First Small Steps Colossal Quantum Leaping

      Not so much anti-American (that's how our pundits interpret it), as ...... preparing for a post-America world. ... Meeker Morgan

      Is IT and AI and the Earth now in a Time and Space Place of a post America-leading-the-world world, Meeker Morgan .... is one leading question for a lot of positive answering if further greater conflict and catastrophic chaos is to be intelligently avoided/stalled/crashed?

      And does America recognise and accept their new respected and revered role as aged grand past master wizard and great foundling grandfather figure reclining and cogitating and pulling old puppet strings and removing redundant pieces from the Greater IntelAIgent Games Board under the shade, out of the glare of the almighty sun, in the Cosmic retirement and recuperation home for the totally wasted and exhausted? A pleasant enough existence where they can plot and dream of piloting what might have earlier been and observe and comment on what is to be ..... is another one?

      And if that is not the role they recognise and accept for their tomorrows in the twilight of the age of failed empire building, what do they see themselves as being, with it being clearly enough presented to the rest of the world for all to fully understand and gladly accept and support? Or not support and reject and oppose as the case may be if a chosen proposed role is surely bound to fail badly and sadly madly.

  9. ChoHag

    Russia has trouble selling its military power?

    > ... currently hard to find, given the extensive sanctions imposed on Russia over its illegal invasion of Ukraine.

    ... not to mention the ongoing demonstration of its effectiveness.

    1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      Re: Russia has trouble selling its military power?

      Would they have a lot less trouble buying military power ..... with any burden to be shouldered and dealt with there falling to active sellers with various unspoken of powers aiding such as would be recognised and appreciated as a successful sales mission?

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