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The European Union has imposed sanctions on a Russian military malware developer and the commander of Russia’s MI6 equivalent, a mere five years after the two targeted Germany's parliament with a cyberattack. The pair, an admiral commanding the GRU spy agency and a malware dev already on international sanctions lists for …

  1. TheVogon

    Financial sanctions from the EU would be rather pointless without the involvement of London as the world's leading financial market.

    1. Glen 1

      "London as the world's leading financial market"

      For now.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        up to Jan 1st 2020

        1. TimMaher Silver badge

          2021. Keep up.

          1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

            To be even more pedantic and nitpicking - isn't it midnight on December 31st 2020 that the transition period ends?

      2. low_resolution_foxxes

        FTSE having a bad year. Who could have foreseen the collapse of HSBC, BP & Shell in the same year?

        Is it £300bn down in 12 months...

    2. codejunky Silver badge


      Upvote from me but aint we second to New York? As far as Europe is concerned we are the global hub.

      1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

        Re: @TheVogon


        I think London and New York are top at different things. But NY has the biggest capital markets because their stock exchanges (NYSE, NASDAQ etc) are way bigger and have more companies/shares/money.

        London is top in currency trading and insurance. I think there are some commodities that are mainly traded in one of t'other. London may also be top in international legal services, but there's an awful lot of lawyers in New York, so I'm not sure about that.

        Various people do top ten's of global financial hubs. They don't all agree, but what they do usually agree on is that London and New York vie for the top slot (with London having beaten it in a few in the last decade), but it's generally New York. After those two then Hong Kong, Singapore and Tokyo - then others like Shanghai, Toronto, Sydney, Geneva.

        For those interested in Brexit news, I don't think there's anything to see here. The EU don't tend to get a look in to the global top tens, now that London's left. Or if they do it's Frankfurt sneaking in to tenth spot. But there are more people working in financial services in London than the entire population of Frankfurt - so moving it all there would be the work of decades. Apart from a tiny bit of retail insurance and banking work being lost without passporting - I doubt that Brexit will have a great deal of effect on global financial services. Unless the EU passes rules to block trading in foreign markets - the problem is that all the trained people and all the infrastructure is already in place elsewhere. Frankfurt's too small (as is Luxemburg) and Paris is too highly taxed. According to stuff I was reading at the time, the thought was that if the EU blocked Euro clearing in London, then it would move to New York - where a lot already happens anyway - because they've already got "equivalence" agreed with the US. So the only reason not to give it to London, which currently trades under EU rules, would be political.

        1. codejunky Silver badge

          Re: @TheVogon

          @I ain't Spartacus

          Cheers for all that, was an interesting read. As for the EU and Euro-clearing they have apparently informed their banks that they have decided against blocking their access to London.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Now I'm waiting for EU to sanction USA

    for spying German Chancellor mobile phone. What's that you're saying ? Oh, that was not spying!

    OK, people, raise your hand those who know whose economy would benefit most from a war ?

    1. Glen 1

      Re: Now I'm waiting for EU to sanction USA

      I dunno, if EU countries felt they needed to stop buying American (not just Arms), I think there might be a few policy changes in the White House to make sure the status quo continues.

      Can't upset the money men.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Now I'm waiting for EU to sanction USA

      That's never going to happen. The fix was in on that little misadventure a long time ago.

      But at least Edward Snowden has a bit more of a long-term home. So we can be glad that there is a little less chance he will be handed over to the U.S. government after exposing the NSA & Friends skullduggery.

    3. codejunky Silver badge

      Re: Now I'm waiting for EU to sanction USA


      If I remember right the German security forces even collaborated to make the spying possible, not realising their gov was also target.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    How to face both ways at once.....

    Quote: "...Dominic Raab.....norms of state behaviour in cyber-space...."


    Yup.....pure hypocrisy:

    * as usual in Westminster and Cheltenham!

  4. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    Norms of state behaviour in cyber-space is for oxymoronic wishful thinking tinkers ....

    ..... and virtual snake oil salesmen/vapourware merchants

    though UK government officials have claimed to The Register that its main value is to try and convince neutral nations to join the Western point of view on norms of state behaviour in cyber-space.

    The Western point of view which is ..... a most ineffective and cynical and hypocritical do as we say rather than do as we do? Yeah, that's brilliant, if you're thinking to appeal and engage with morons ...... and no doubt the rotten source of all of their expanding woes and phantom foes. And defending the indefensible is a sure fire recipe for rapid international and rabid internetional disaster.

    Do you see the same picture as is right royally portrayed by daily news updates with doom and gloom, FUD and FUBAR headlining?

    I know what a Del Boy would say about all of that ...... "FCUKing Plonkers" ..... and they wouldn't be wrong, would they.

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