back to article Huawei goes all Art of War on us: Switches on 'battle mode' and vows to 'dominate the world'

An internal memo to Huawei staff sent by boss Ren Zhengfei is long on military metaphors and warns that the company needs to go into "battle mode" to counter trade barriers put up by the United States. Ren said that although first-half results were pretty healthy, some of this was due to sympathetic early payments by some …

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  1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    In Different Times ..... with SMARTR Spaces ...... for Deadly Places.

    And many organisations are now just starting to understand and implement the technology in a variety of applications to supplement parallel process automation and digital transformation initiatives.

    Deloitte’s State of AI in the Enterprise report suggests that by 2020 the penetration of enterprise software with AI built in, and cloud-based AI development services, will reach 87 per cent and 83 per cent, respectively,.. .... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/08/20/intel_ai_high_performance/

    Can we contend and commend either a Parallel or Singularity with Facilities and Utilities Shared Freely and Declaring All Ready and Already Readily Available from Services signed in personally broadbandcasting Novel Countering Contra IntelAIgent Content here for You too?

    Or is that just for now Too Giant a Quantum Leap to Make/Take?

    Myriad Markets have an Incurable Insatiable Appetite to Know of the Progress being Made in Prime Pilgrim Seeding and Feeding Stock Supplying Almighty Virtual Assets as Heavenly Hellish Weapons ....... so that All can Enjoy the Killing to be made in Sales and Investment Opportunities Wide Open and Welcoming to Failed Federated Reserve Market Players ........ who some would say, ideally be Almighty High Rollers too ..... the Most Gracious of Gamblers par Excellence.

    All of that was initially meant for reply to somewhere else but it be perfectly suited and booted for a reply to the Huawei call to arms entertaining us here.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: In Different Times ..... with SMARTR Spaces ...... for Deadly Places.

      its certainly true that you cut could put that comment on any of the stories and it would make the same amount of sense.

      1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

        Re: In Different Times ..... with SMARTR Spaces ...... for Deadly Places.

        its certainly true that you cut could put that comment on any of the stories and it would make the same amount of sense. ..... AC

        Yes, it is a Universally Useful Application for AI and IT Programming with Virtually Advanced IntelAIgent Operating Systems.

        And Extremely Easily Fine Tuned for Leaderships Everywhere ...... is the Boast that Boots Sales and Boosts Deliveries ....... and Contracted for Future Supplies with Private Pirate Product Available to Seed Enchanted Executive Driver Engines is ..... well, a Heavenly Worthy Just Dessert Delivery.

        Fear not what is to like. Just LOVE IT to Bits and Peaces and you will be Absolutely Awesomely Amazed at All You Can Do Next ....... via Remote Virtual Command and Quantum Communication Control of Relatively Simple Great Tasks ........ which most only never even dream of being possible, and therefore quite likely and eventually inevitably probable.

        Something which seems quite ridiculously outrageous but which nevertheless easily proves itself an improving current clear and present danger and exponential existential threat to Earthly Systems Administrations ‽ . And the punctuation for those who would harbour doubt for questioning of an exclamative fact.

        1. Tail Up

          Re: In D....

          No Doubt - Hella Good Live

          https://youtu.be/Cy1vgIXaSBg

          Such is so.

          Moreover, IT no longer requires US-made components (-:

          1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

            PEBKAC Strikes Yet Again ...... Proving itself the Weakest Link and Easiest of Prey?

            There are, however, limits to foresight and/or anticipation, after an extensive evaluation of “the performance of 284 expert political forecasters in the assessments of more than 80,000 predictions over a 20 year period”, the evaluation concluded: “humanity barely bests the chimp” in forecasting political issues. In other words, humans are not performing well in foreseeing events; as such technical political forecasting arose. Instead of human forecasting, algorithms are better suited to forecast situations since the algorithms prove to be equally or more accurate than human forecasting. As the aforementioned evaluation noted: “it is impossible to find any domain in which humans clearly outperformed crude extrapolation algorithms, less still sophisticated statistical ones”. At present, however, “there is very little likelihood that human punditry, particularly the opinionated self-assurance so valued in the popular media, will be completely replaced by the unblinking assessments of computer programs”. In other words, for the time being, human forecasting will drive forecasting and anticipation, as such it will be flawed. ..... On cyber: The utility of military cyber operations during armed conflict.

            The persistent systemic problem and abiding exploitative vulnerability, Tail Up, which just cannot stop giving?

            1. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

              Re: PEBKAC Strikes Yet Again ...... Proving itself the Weakest Link and Easiest of Prey?

              The persistent systemic problem and abiding exploitative vulnerability, Tail Up, which just cannot stop giving?

              I dont know that one , what did you get for 14 down?

  2. SPiT

    no longer required US components

    Can we assume this is the key phrase. I always expected that to be the main trade consequence of Trump's ban. Perhaps he's suddenly realised that unless the whole world bans Huawei then he's just disadvantaging the USA.

    1. Jemma

      Re: no longer required US components

      Trump disadvantaging the USI*?

      How could that possibly happen?

      The separate states are ignoring the federal government on pretty much whatever they like from green energy to womens rights (both ways, good and bad). Departments nominally within government are on the very borders of telling said government to f-off. Practically every country that didn't hate the USI with a vengeance now does. Pretty much all of this, is thanks to Darth Dumbass, and Science preserve us if he gets a second term.

      How could Herr Shitgibbon possibly be a disadvantage for the USI? For one thing he's far to busy being a disadvantage to the entire human race.

      I think this YouTube is very apt..

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ML3qYHWRIZk&list=LLYg9-2PsKj2eUt-5hvmOuWA&index=15&t=0s

      *United States of Inbredistan

      PS: You might be interested to know that I'm due a upgrade smartphone - it'll be a Huawei - one small solitary middle finger to Darth Dumbass..

      1. Stevie

        Re: no longer required US components

        Well remember, OPOTUS recently gave us a brief history on the formation of the Soviet Union: They all decided to get together and then they said "We should just call it Russia".

        My socialist scum teachers had me believing that there was a bloody revolution and then a series of coups and purges and vicious totalitarian military crackdowns.

        I wonder why they all fell out again and split into all those Caspian Sea-side States? Tsk! Russians, eh?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: no longer required US components

          Your teacher was wrong. Actually there were two revolutions, the first one had the czar abdicate and a moderate government was formed, then Kerenski was overthrown in a coup by Bolsheviks in October 1917 who wanted to seize power suffocating into blood any different idea. Obviously, it could only led to Stalin and Beria, without any other coups, but with a lot of purges - including among the military, which became subjected to the Party and NKVD.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: no longer required US components

            And then a third revolution as the royalist forces fought with the communists - with the intervention of several nations (including the US), mainly to keep the port of Vladivostok open on the east coast to keep supplies going to those fighting the reds until the communists won in 1919-1920..

        2. Danny 2

          Re: no longer required US components

          When I was 21 I had five 17 year old apprentices in an electronics factory. I got two or three good anecdotes from that, here is one.

          One of them had a great grandfather in the British Army force in Russia fighting the Reds in support of the Whites, and he took photographs that my boy brought in to show us. They were of mass slaughter, mass hangings, torture and decapitations. That sort of stuff.

          My first reaction was to say, "You do know he was a war criminal, right?"

          "Oh no, his unit just came across these scenes and he photographed them. They'd been committed by the Bolsheviks before they fled, and they just wanted to document it."

          "So, this photo when they are all sitting smiling in a group for the camera and holding up severed heads, that was for history?"

          Britain committed undocumented war crimes in Russia at the start of the 20th century. Less than a hundred years ago. And not just there, Tibet, Afghanistan, China, India.

          I'm amazed the rest of the world doesn't treat us the way we treat Germans and Japanese.

          [One of my great grandfathers fought in an Afghan war. And in India. Economic recruit. Bred with his sister]

          1. YJotta

            Re: no longer required US components

            Good point, well made.

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: @Stevie's

          It ain't over yet, Stevie... Briefly: Trump isn't 100 wrong, he's definitely more than half correct saying this.

      2. DickJR

        Re: no longer required US components

        Ok, now we all know you hate every government,because they didn't renew your driver's license and put your yellow pants on your head

      3. Beau
        Happy

        Re: no longer required US components

        " it'll be a Huawei " An up vote for you Sir, and may I just add, "I had a good look at a Huawei yesterday, and ordered my P 30 pro today."

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: no longer required US components

          Had a Huawei - never again. Worst phone ever - unreliable, poor performance, and the support was rude when it wasn't non-existent.

          Good luck with your signalling, but next time consider buying something that works for longer than 3 weeks at a time.

          1. veti Silver badge

            Re: no longer required US components

            I recommend buying a phone from any manufacturer whose name you haven't seen in the news in the last six months. When you buy Apple or Samsung or Huawei, you're paying for a premium brand.

            My current phone is an Oppo, it's two years old and has given excellent service from new. And it was cheap.

            1. Nick Kew

              Re: no longer required US components

              Here in Blighty Huawei doesn't appear to be priced as a premium brand. Real-world prices in the ballpark of Motorola/Lenovo, half the cheapest Samsung, quarter of the cheapest iphone.

              1. KBeee

                Re: no longer required US components

                I dunno though, from the same store these look pretty much on a par with high end Samsung, Apple etc. top of the range prices.

            2. llaryllama

              Re: no longer required US components

              ASUS ROG phone here. I admit I kinda bought it just to be awkward and because you can customize a flashing logo on the outside but it happens to be the best phone/ultra portable computer I ever owned. I got the dock with it that plugs into an HDMI monitor and has more USB ports than my wife's Macbook Pro.

          2. big_D Silver badge

            Re: no longer required US components

            My daughter is on her 3rd year with her Mate 9 Pro, it was returned with a defective camera, they replaced it without question.

            My Mate 10 Pro is still going fine (and upgraded to Pie, with the July Google updates installed), my P20 is also on Pie, July updates and my wife P-Smart 2018 is also on Pie with June updates. All running fine and no slowdown so far.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: no longer required US components

              hmm, anonymous generic "Huwai are shit" comments or attributable post from a known poster naming devices and periods of time..... Who to believe?!!

              1. low_resolution_foxxes

                Re: no longer required US components

                I've had a pretty good time on Huawei devices, I'm on my second. I picked up the P20 lite phone for £180 a year ago and the only drama I've had is whether Trumpy cancels my banking security updates or blocks Android (curiously timed within weeks of Huawei overtaking Samsung by sales volume, Samsung presumably bend over backwards to give the US/UK any personal data the government wanted and help US tech apps dominate).

                It's a generic sim-free smartphone + the same Face ID supplier as the iPhone. Otherwise you could put a Sony, LG or any decent brandname on it and I probably couldn't tell the difference. It has a headphone jack, no bloatware, you can delete virtually all apps - including FB (clearly not a Samsung POS then!). 8-core CPU, 4GB RAM and 64GB storage.

                I don't need anything else. Oh and I picked up a Huawei M5 tablet which is decent enough.

          3. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Good luck with your signalling

            It's impossible to criticise someone for Virtue Signalling without signalling how virtuous you are for pointing it out.

            You might be right about the person you're calling out, or you might be wrong but we know for sure that, by trying to point out Virtue Signalling in someone else, you're definitely a virtue signaller.

            See how it works now?

            1. Robert Helpmann??
              Thumb Up

              Re: Good luck with your signalling

              See how it works now?

              Yes! All is clear now! You are signalling your virtue by virtuously pointing out the person pointing out the person virtue signalling is signalling their virtue. Got it! And by extension, you are a virtuous virtue signalling signaler and I am pointing out the virtue signalling of the person pointing out the virtue signalling of the person pointing out the virtue signalling of the original person signalling virtue, thus making me the most superlative virtue signaler of all, QED.

            2. YARR
              Boffin

              Pointing out virtue signalling is not virtue signalling, since you don't gain from it, but you assist others from being deceived. VS-ing is an attempt to gain favour that may or may not be deserved.

        2. Andre Carneiro

          Re: no longer required US components

          Might actually be tempted to give Huawei a go if they didn’t run a data-hoarding OS created by one of the most evil and intrusive corporations in the world...

          1. Gordon 10

            Re: no longer required US components

            Maybe not for long if the Moron in chief holds sway. Android could be one of the biggest casualties.

      4. YJotta

        Re: no longer required US components

        Buy the Huawei now, being part of a botnet will be a big step up for you.

      5. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

        Re: no longer required US components

        How could Herr Shitgibbon possibly be a disadvantage for the USI? For one thing he's far to busy being a disadvantage to the entire human race.

        Did you know he tried to buy Greenland recently?!

        .. and then threww his dummy and cancelled state visit to Denmark when they refused.

        About as tactful as John Belushi offering to buy fellow diners children in "The Blues Brothers"

        1. Trollslayer
          Trollface

          Re: no longer required US components

          Classic!

        2. veti Silver badge

          Re: no longer required US components

          I've never believed that he actually wanted to buy Greenland. Even apart from the "buying a country" thing, Greenland of all places? - the population is less than 20% white, and it has one of the most socialist systems in Europe.

          The whole thing was just a diversion.

          1. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

            Re: no longer required US components

            He probably has no idea of the climate and going off the name , thinks its a good spot for a few golf courses

          2. Jaybus

            Re: no longer required US components

            Nah! US has tried to buy Greenland before. Truman tried in 1946 for a military base, but ended up making a deal to lease instead. This time Trump wanted to trade part of Alaska + cash. It's about the rare-earths that are there. Denmark is unwilling or unable to mine the rare-earths, probably because the Chinese government-subsidized takeover of the market made it unprofitable for Denmark or not profitable enough to bother with. Like the rest of the West, they probably closed any mines they had. Trump basically wants to trade available oil reserves for available rare-earth reserves. Actually, might be a better deal for Denmark and they should probably take it.

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        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Jenny

          Russian hackers meddle into elections worldwide? Didn't hear about. Must be a misspelling glitch... erections?

    2. sanmigueelbeer
      Thumb Down

      Re: no longer required US components

      Can we assume this is the key phrase.

      It means the Chinese have manage to reverse-engineer all the necessary parts needed. They've also made enough headway to manufacture said component(s) in vast quantity, cheaply.

      If and when Chuck Robins reads that statement/memo he's going to go off and cry to mommy.

      Globalization, looking good now for US companies, huh? Smart move guys. Really smart move.

      1. genghis_uk

        Re: no longer required US components

        How many parts did they have to reverse engineer compared with parts that were already manufactured in China (for US companies)?

        In the quest for decreased costs and increased profits, US companies have given the Chinese most of the crown jewels already.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: no longer required US components

      Capitol, WH, Letter Agencies, do you mean that?

      Kiddin. Hmm...

    4. BillG
      WTF?

      Tiananmen Square

      No Chinese company should be using tanks as a metaphor. The memories are not flattering to their image.

  3. Stevie

    Bah!

    "you can tie a rope around the 'tank' to pull it along"

    If you are needing people to pull your tank with ropes the chances are good you have badly mishandled the old Armour/Firepower/Horsepower calculation so central to tank design.

    Cutting this as fine as possible was why there were notices that no Tiger E was allowed to tow another for example. I have documentation that it took two Tigers to pull a disabled one "safely". Compare to the Panther, where the recovery vehicle was just another panther chassis repurposed.

    Two pages of tank enthusiast blither redacted in accordance with laws on inhumane punishments.

    Enough of this talk of tanks! It's time for a nice quiet game of Panzer Leader.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Bah!

      Well, that was pointless.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Bah!

        yo mommas pointless

    2. martinusher Silver badge

      Re: Bah!

      A more relevant WW2 analogy would be to look at a bit of vintage newsreel on youTube of the Chinese building an airstrip for B-29s. They ddin't have anything except manual labour and a huge stone roller. About a hundred thousand people turned up -- men, women and children -- and they built the facility in about a week.

      Obviously most Chinese are like us, they would rather spend their working lives doing an "indoor job with no heavy lifting", but if push comes to shove.....

      1. jelabarre59

        Re: Bah!

        A more relevant WW2 analogy would be to look at a bit of vintage newsreel on youTube of the Chinese building an airstrip for B-29s.

        I know that one. I have it on 16MM. (for all I know the YT video originated from my copy).

    3. sabroni Silver badge
      Boffin

      Re: "you can tie a rope around the 'tank' to pull it along"

      I think that was a metaphor.

      1. Anonymous aren't cowards

        Re: "you can tie a rope around the 'tank' to pull it along"

        I thought it was rhyming slang

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: @Stevie

      World of Tanks, Stevie.worldoftanks.com

  4. JLV
    Trollface

    Macho military studliness certainly will do wonders to quell concerns that they’re in bed with the PLA and gov.

    Methink unicorns, SJW-speak and random corporate “inclusive values” biz-speak might have lulled our ever-alert Western spy agencies to sleep. Then again, that might also have put their own staff to sleep.

    AFAIK China ain’t renowned for its AFVs either, what with mostly running cloned T-72s. Oh dear, maybe that’s why they need those ropes.

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