Re: BoringGreen Marketing Hack Good for Germany! @Plump & Bleaty
> "....There's enough documentary evidence to start the german gov't moving...." Where?
In what snowden released.
> The second will be quietly dropped as soon as it stops making Merkel and co political hay. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/28/germany_says_nein_on_nsa_hacking_trials/
You *may* have a point here. Let's wait and see. But may I also point out that if I or anyone propose anything unproven you sqawk like a strangled parrot, if you it suits you then you say it and expect everyone to swallow it: "The second will be quietly dropped as soon as..." Your opinion and I'm supposed to accept it? You object to what you refer to as hearsay but your opinion rides?
> "....The EU's civil liberties committee is there for the prettiness...." So you can list their legal authorities? Oh, no you can't, and not just because you're just as ill-informed as usual, but because they have no legal authority
Like I quoted at you before, this time with the relevant word in bold:
The Committee on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs (LIBE) is in charge of most of the legislation and democratic oversight for policies linked to the transformation of the European Union in the area of freedom, security and justice (AFSJ) (art. 3 TEU).
> Like I said, if it is such an open-and-shut case of 'illegality' as you claimed, why no case? The reason is the so-called 'illegality' is nothing more than
political legal opinion, [...]
Per my previous 2 quotes, FTFY
> Der Spiegel originally claimed Merkel's phone was 'bugged' as in it had either malware or a physical bug installed
Don't believe you. Here's what der spiegel says <http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/cover-story-how-nsa-spied-on-merkel-cell-phone-from-berlin-embassy-a-930205.html> "From the roof of the embassy, a special unit of the CIA and NSA can apparently monitor a large part of cellphone communication in the government quarter. And there is evidence that agents based at Pariser Platz recently targeted the cellphone that Merkel uses the most." No mention of a hardware or software implant. Just 'monitoring'
> Just policy input, no legal authority whatsoever.
If you're referring to the EU comittee on civil liberties, see above quote (yet again).
> Now let's look at the ECoJ:
I didn't raise the ECoJ, you did.
> And you claimed the civil liberties bunch thought the NSA had 'broken EU law',
I did not. It was legal opinion that it *may* or *likely* to have been illegal. Stop deliberately misquoting me.